Can anything compete with DIVA or Repro in 2020?!

[glokraw]

the 106 is shit. why would you want to sound like that?

That is some good medicine!

[clipnotic]

For more entertainment and final off topic, I also sold my TR808 and TR909, although I also still make oldschool electro stuff, because I have two very great plugins for 808 subbass and the best sample packs I know from that machines!

[Echoes in the Attic]

It's really interesting to me that some people think that the time period in which an instrument was created has something to do with the sound of it. Or at least that we should take into account it's age as a measure of how much we like it? Makes no sense to me. Is it living in the past to use acoustic guitars, pianos, or violins?

That's not what I meant, but meanwhile many VST synths are simply sounding much better, I worked a long time with old hardware and I would never go back and I still make also oldschool music! Your and others here problem is, that you still are fixed on that sound from the past from only that gear! And the OP here is fixed from a sound he likes from the u-he plugins and that's okay, but he makes a ridiculous competition list and that's also nonsense!

Were are you getting these conclusions from? I'm fixed on the sound of the past? What do you base this on? Because I like the sound of Juno-106? The only synths I use are plugins, and I have more digital, modern synths than I do vintage style ones. Because the time period of a synth vst or a hardware synth that an emulation is based on does not matter to me. I use stratocasters and bass guitars and rhodes piano type instruments. Am I fixed on the past because of when these models were made? Even though I also use a roli seaboard and linnstrument with synths designed in the last few years making use of a new midi specification?

It's very weird that you think it's a "problem" and that it's fixing on the past to simply think that a synth that came out in the past sounds great.

[clipnotic]

Were are you getting these conclusions from? I'm fixed on the sound of the past? What do you base this on? ...

Because you wrote this ...

Because it’s not shit. It’s one of the best sounding synths there has ever been.

And that's not a matter of taste, it's nonsense!

[gentleclockdivider]

If I had to buy a synth with the latest, best sound quality, it would be Tal's Mod, whose features are much more in line with what I need, and its price is also much more affordable.

Really? I'm a big fan of TAL-Sampler and Bassline 101, but TAL-Mod never clicked with me. Please dont slap me, but am i the only one who finds TAL Mod a bit overrated? Maybe i havent spent enough time with it I bought it without demoing but it's okay - i love TAL, so i see it as donation.

It sounds very good to me, although I don't like the user interface much. I prefer realistic ones to 2D.

I played around with TAL Mod for the last hour. The sound of the OSC's is relly good (present and assertive) and the filters are okay - not great but okay. What bothered me from the first moment, was the small MSEG editor. It's tabbed, so why not make a full page MSEG? A shame, because the curve editing feels extremly smooth. But i'll devinitly give TAL Mod a second chance Maybe i just expected to much when it was released ... for it's CPU usage it's a fine synth.

It's basically an upgraded Noisemaker with cables

UPgraded noisemaker , Not really .
The audio rate modulation and quality in Talmod is excellent , the filters are excellent etc..with a distinct Roland vibe to ti
The overdrive charasteric and the filter sounds 99% like the system 8 ( just try it out ) .
I am convinced that most people don't even know what a decent analogue modelled filter sounds like
Talmod does it with flying colours .

[EnGee]

Were are you getting these conclusions from? I'm fixed on the sound of the past? What do you base this on? ...

Because you wrote this ...

Because it’s not shit. It’s one of the best sounding synths there has ever been.

And that's not a matter of taste, it's nonsense!

What is the "sound of the past"? And what's the problem if someone likes such a sound?

[Echoes in the Attic]

Were are you getting these conclusions from? I'm fixed on the sound of the past? What do you base this on? ...

Because you wrote this ...

Because it’s not shit. It’s one of the best sounding synths there has ever been.

And that's not a matter of taste, it's nonsense!

So how does saying something sounds great indicate any fixation about the time from when it came from? It's irrelevant.
I guess if someone said the Stradivarius was one of the best sounding violins there has ever been, that too would be nonsense, because it's older than currently produced violins right?

Maybe you are just fixated on the the latest releases. Some people just like things that sound good and don't care when it came out.

[TheSynthScientist]

and noen of them can compete!!!!!!

Well, some of them can compete.

[BONES]

seriously, if you are any good at all at producing music, lots of synths compete, even some free ones.

nonsense. If you compare a house with a pool and one without, you can live in both, but only swim in one!

Or you can take the money you saved buying a house without a pool and spend it on getting exactly the kind of pool you want, with all the modern conveniences, rather than putting up with what someone thought was a great pool 40 years ago.

The concept with several modules in one synth is unique and without competition.

No, it's not. DUNE, for example, has around 20 different filters, not just the paltry handful offered by Diva. It's a very common idea, just packaged differently to appeal to a different audience.

And Repro-1 is the best synth (software or hardware) that I have heard.

Meh, it's pretty good but I prefer Korg's ARP Odyssey and bx_oberhausen, if only because they model more useful synths. I'm actually surprised how little both the RePro's impress me. I'd always held the originals in high regard but if the RePros model them accurately, then I can understand why OBs were so much more common in the Sydney scene at the time.

To all the Dune fanboys: Why does Dune have to be recommended over any other synth in every thread like this?

Because it's good enough to deserve mention? The OP asked a question and it's hard to answer it honestly without giving DUNE a big rap. Even though I don't particularly like DUNE and almost never use it, you can't deny that it sounds absolutely amazing and, unlike the u-he synths, uses bugger-all CPU to achieve it.

First I don't said "owning the most expensive" synths", I also use a few free plugins, but more paid plugins, because they are much better optimized, than the most freeware stuff I tested yet.

Then you need to discover Full Bucket Music because those synths sound great, look great, are great to use, cost nothing and use no CPU whatsoever. And there are synths like OB-Xd that also disprove your point.

The same with dynamic stuff. Of course you can mix and master a track only with the DAW EQs, Compressors and / or freeware plugin and yes it can sound great, I also did this a long time, but meanwhile I have 4 paid plugins on my master track and it takes just an hour and a song is good mastered.

Or you can mange without any compression or EQ at all and still do a great job if your building blocks are sound. i.e. If you use the right instruments and put the effort in to make them work in the arrangement. I've moved more than 20 songs across to Studio One in the last two weeks and I am yet to use any compression or EQ on any synth part. In fact, the only effect I've used at all on any instrument part is Sphene LE on some of my basslines, where I want them to sound more like a bass guitar. Yes, many have on-board effects but I've kind of swapped outboard effects for those ones and it's simplified my production process considerably. What once took days I can now achieve in hours.

If you would really know something about production skills, I wouldn't have to explain you such simple beginner basics!

And if you knew anything about basic production skills, you wouldn't need to lean so heavily on effects and expensive tools.

That's fine, but I miss for instance at least one more envelope, I use 3 or 4 envelopes all the time.

I often use just the one. K-I-S-S all the way if you want good results. The ore complicated you make things, the more you paint yourself into corners.

[zerocrossing]

The plugins that I feel do the best “analog” impersonation are...

Diva (though it fails at some of the more tricky stuff. Great for bread ‘n butter sounds with style)
Repro 1/5 (great, though the distortion algorithms alias a bit)
Legend. 8 voice Minimoog? Yes please.
bx_oberhausen. 8 voice SEM? Yes please.
Obsession. Might as well jump!
OB-Xa V. Might as well jump... with something that’s not quite as good as Obsession, but has more interesting features.
OP-XA II. More Oberheim! An oldie, but a goodie.
Oddity. Poly ARP Odessey. Mmmm.
Aalto. West cost style.
Buchla V. More west coast style.
XILS... all of them, but PolyKB and SynX are my favorites.

[zerocrossing]

Were are you getting these conclusions from? I'm fixed on the sound of the past? What do you base this on? ...

Because you wrote this ...

Because it’s not shit. It’s one of the best sounding synths there has ever been.

And that's not a matter of taste, it's nonsense!

So how does saying something sounds great indicate any fixation about the time from when it came from? It's irrelevant.
I guess if someone said the Stradivarius was one of the best sounding violins there has ever been, that too would be nonsense, because it's older than currently produced violins right?

Maybe you are just fixated on the the latest releases. Some people just like things that sound good and don't care when it came out.

Of course the most modern emulations are going to sound the oldest. Duh.

[excuse me please]

Every instr is a sound generator, therefore it's a synth. So the terms "analog" or "digital" are coming from the same nominator.

[Urs]

The concept with several modules in one synth is unique and without competition.

No, it's not. DUNE, for example, has around 20 different filters, not just the paltry handful offered by Diva. It's a very common idea, just packaged differently to appeal to a different audience.

Just a quick fact check, Diva has 18 different filter algorithms, but they are curated into six groups distinguished by individual parameter sets and ingredients.

[AnX]

one of the best....

[AnX]

One of the things that convinced to purchase Dune3 was the amount of reccomendations it kept receiving.
Perhaps there are too many Dune fanboys?

Not at all, just they are in every thread and have time to endlessly argue about everything all the time, same as Bitwig and other stuff that is popular on KVR and not that much in outside world.

evidence?