Problem with sync midi

[Angusghoul]

Hi. This is causing me a lot of problems, I need help when I record the bass with the MODO BASS plugin, hitting the correct beat, when I finish recording, the notes get out of sync and are heard before I played them.
I play along perfect on beat and after hitting stop I watched the track move up exactly one beat.
The worst of all, is that if I put them correctly manually, later, when I export, again the bass is out of sync. Please help, I don't know what to do.

[Kott]

Hi,
Try this tip viewtopic.php?p=7880036#p7880036

[Angusghoul]

I put on and off but dont work i try all, what can i do

[Peter Widdicombe]

What is your note input method - MIDI keyboard, or virtual keyboard? The MIDI notes that are recorded - do they seem to be in the right place and on the beat?

Problem may be on the input device, if MIDI; or audio processing delay in the computer's audio processing; both of which can end up with odd settings.

For MIDI input devices, check out Settings - MIDI - and select the MIDI input device, and look at the properties panel for that. There IS a "time adjust" setting on the right; and if too large will "over compensate" for potential midi delay (in milliseconds). This probably should be something between -100 and 0. If you have , for instance, -2000, then MIDI notes get pushed back in time when recorded by 2 seconds...

Also, do you get the same delay if you use the virtual keyboard to trigger notes? If not, then it's a MIDI input setting. If you still get it, it may be processing on the audio side.

[pough]

Just some quick questions

1. Which OS are you using?
2. Which version of Waveform?
3. Does this same problem happen with other synths or just MODO?
4. Have you tried other keyboards?
5. Have you tried running the same setup (keyboard + Waveform + MODO) on another computer?
6. Have you tried an alternate version of Waveform?
7. Have you tried another DAW?

I find the best way to track down problems is to change one thing and see if it still happens.

[pough]

You might also try the plugin validator on the Settings tab -> Plugins

[Angusghoul]

What is your note input method - MIDI keyboard, or virtual keyboard? The MIDI notes that are recorded - do they seem to be in the right place and on the beat?

Problem may be on the input device, if MIDI; or audio processing delay in the computer's audio processing; both of which can end up with odd settings.

For MIDI input devices, check out Settings - MIDI - and select the MIDI input device, and look at the properties panel for that. There IS a "time adjust" setting on the right; and if too large will "over compensate" for potential midi delay (in milliseconds). This probably should be something between -100 and 0. If you have , for instance, -2000, then MIDI notes get pushed back in time when recorded by 2 seconds...

Also, do you get the same delay if you use the virtual keyboard to trigger notes? If not, then it's a MIDI input setting. If you still get it, it may be processing on the audio side.

Its my virtual keyboard. The stranger thing is that, in other recordings, never happen to me. So, weeks ago, i dont have this problem
The time adjust, i try everything. 0, +100, - 100, etc, and nothing change

[Angusghoul]

Just some quick questions

1. Which OS are you using?
2. Which version of Waveform?
3. Does this same problem happen with other synths or just MODO?
4. Have you tried other keyboards?
5. Have you tried running the same setup (keyboard + Waveform + MODO) on another computer?
6. Have you tried an alternate version of Waveform?
7. Have you tried another DAW?

I find the best way to track down problems is to change one thing and see if it still happens.

Windows 10
11 64 bits
All of the vst. Weeks ago this dont happen
Its my pc keyboard
No
Nop
Garage band

[Angusghoul]

This video I recording today. An example of my problem.

[pough]

Hmm... I've never really used the virtual keyboard before, but I just gave it a try and it's working fine. I'm running 11.1.0, which is the most recent non-beat version. Are you using one of the betas?

[Angusghoul]

Hmm... I've never really used the virtual keyboard before, but I just gave it a try and it's working fine. I'm running 11.1.0, which is the most recent non-beat version. Are you using one of the betas?

No really, I've been trying to solve this for days, it's very maddening.
The weird thing is that it didn't happen to me before, and I haven't touched anything, nor did it change anything, I don't understand.
The most strange thing is that: if I manually synchronize the notes so that they are on the correct beat, just as I play them, if I then render the midi, the render also goes out of sync, but in the place where I I moved the midi notes. I mean, let me explain: when I finish playing the notes, they are heard BEFORE I play them. To fix it, I move them later so that they sound correctly with the other instruments. Now when I render, the track now starts AFTER the other instruments, since the midi notes "delay" them to hear them well with the beats. It is too strange, the error would then be something like in the processing of the midi or I do not know, but I do not understand. This is identified because when rendering, the track sounds in the exact place where I moved the notes, that is, it is heard later, since in the midi track it delays them. Would someone know how to fix it?

[Angusghoul]

Hmm... I've never really used the virtual keyboard before, but I just gave it a try and it's working fine. I'm running 11.1.0, which is the most recent non-beat version. Are you using one of the betas?

No really, I've been trying to solve this for days, it's very maddening.
The weird thing is that it didn't happen to me before, and I haven't touched anything, nor did it change anything, I don't understand.
The most strange thing is that: if I manually synchronize the notes so that they are on the correct beat, just as I play them, if I then render the midi, the render also goes out of sync, but in the place where I I moved the midi notes. I mean, let me explain: when I finish playing the notes, they are heard BEFORE I play them. To fix it, I move them later so that they sound correctly with the other instruments. Now when I render, the track now starts AFTER the other instruments, since the midi notes "delay" them to hear them well with the beats. It is too strange, the error would then be something like in the processing of the midi or I do not know, but I do not understand. This is identified because when rendering, the track sounds in the exact place where I moved the notes, that is, it is heard later, since in the midi track it delays them. Would someone know how to fix it?

Up, the midi clip, down, the render midi clip
https://ibb.co/hVPt6LV

[Peter Widdicombe]

What is the plugin "cambio de tono" in the chain before the MODO bass? What happens if you bypass this plugin?

[pough]

No really, I've been trying to solve this for days, it's very maddening.
The weird thing is that it didn't happen to me before, and I haven't touched anything, nor did it change anything, I don't understand.

It's very strange. The only thing I can really recommend is that you try lots of different things. Other synths. Other DAWs. Paint in the notes instead of recording them.

What's your audio interface and its settings?

[Angusghoul]

What is the plugin "cambio de tono" in the chain before the MODO bass? What happens if you bypass this plugin?

WTF ITS WORK IF I DELETE THIS PLUGIN!!!! THANK GOD, NOW I KNOW WHAT ITS THE PROBLEM!!
so, this plugin is the "MIDI MODIFIER PLUGIN" is for shift the range of the notes to different octaves. But, the question is, why this plug give delay to the notes? I need this plug to play notes in drop B, for example. I watched this video to do this