Massive X 1.6.1 update (September 2025)!

[audiouser720]

I'll try it. Only read good things about it so far. Even though I usually don't have too much use for those standalone filter plugins.

Watch this (sorry for the off). He explains how to replace your synth's filter with The Drop. It's a bit of a routing mission and doesn't quite work in poly but boy it's worth it. This thing really does sound like HW (to me):



Anyway back to topic. I can do this with MX. Just wanted to know how good it holds up as a compact solution. Thanks for the opinions!

[EvilDragon]

And they are integrated into a bunch of Ableton devices a few years now (Operator is the best little FM synth ever with those), though, interestingly, they were not integrated into Analog (probably because of the legacy AAS code).

AFAIK it's not 1:1 The Drop filters that are in Live, but specially coded versions by Andy, adapted for lower CPU usage. Or is that's in EQ Eight? I forget.

[audiouser720]

And they are integrated into a bunch of Ableton devices a few years now (Operator is the best little FM synth ever with those), though, interestingly, they were not integrated into Analog (probably because of the legacy AAS code).

AFAIK it's not 1:1 The Drop filters that are in Live, but specially coded versions by Andy, adapted for lower CPU usage. Or is that's in EQ Eight? I forget.

That is correct. Same goes for The Glue (esp when the HD is 'finally' out).

[pdxindy]

Monark's filter is awesome, and all the Massive filters work quite well IMO even if they're not modelled.
Can get p*ssed at NI for a lot of things but not the DSP.

Agreed... NI's DSP is world class. MX's filters are really good. The comb filter may be the best I have heard for that type.

[JoeCat]

And they are integrated into a bunch of Ableton devices a few years now (Operator is the best little FM synth ever with those), though, interestingly, they were not integrated into Analog (probably because of the legacy AAS code).

AFAIK it's not 1:1 The Drop filters that are in Live, but specially coded versions by Andy, adapted for lower CPU usage. Or is that's in EQ Eight? I forget.

That is correct. Same goes for The Glue (esp when the HD is 'finally' out).

True that would need to be the case - but for most "musically relevant applications" (I'm sure I didn't invent that term but love it), I'm feeling the vibe.

[audiouser720]

Yes absolutely. For basic applications it does the job better than any other DAW inbuilt sampler to be fair (or filter model in stock instruments as such).

Downloaded MX demo and digging it so far. Boy it's half price atm hard to resist.

[Rastkovic]

The main problem with the GUI is that there are so many different sections and there's no clear separation between them. No contrast between elements. It's just straining to look at. They really took a step back in GUI design from Massive to X. It still looks like an alpha version.

I'm using the Flat Default theme since available. The Standard theme is very irritating for my eyes....

[_leras]

They hold up really well IMO, they are coded with audio rate modulation in mind. However, note that only the Monark Blue filter is analog modelled really. But they're all zero-delay feedback AFAIK.

Unfortunate decision to move from two filters in massive, to just a single filter for massive X....

[EvilDragon]

Well, can still add 3 more filters using insert FX slots...

[chk071]

The main problem with the GUI is that there are so many different sections and there's no clear separation between them. No contrast between elements. It's just straining to look at. They really took a step back in GUI design from Massive to X. It still looks like an alpha version.

I'm using the Flat Default theme since available. The Standard theme is very irritating for my eyes....

The dark skin is totally alright in regards of contrast and overall clarity.

Didn't like the default white skin either. Too bright for me.

[chk071]

Well, can still add 3 more filters using insert FX slots...

With the routing, it's super flexible anyway. You can also use up to 7 oscillators as well, when you route the auxiliary oscillators in the same way as the oscillators.

[buzz1]

Well, can still add 3 more filters using insert FX slots...

But they are basic, non resonant and take up precious slots so that's not a good substitute.

[Rastkovic]

I agree, a real 2nd filter would be nice. But on the other hand, there are enough shaping possibilities. And for some additional lfo hipass/bandpass filtering, an external filter plugin would do the job. Not to forget, using non-Synth FX generally adds uniqueness to the sound....

[v1o]

There is a spectral filter on the oscillators to do tone shaping. So IMHO there is no real need for a second filter anyway. I believe this decision was also made to save CPU as the main filter is very high quality and without compromise.

[Vortifex]

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