DUNE 3 is now available!!

[AnX]

I read them perfectly, it seems clear you have very limited knowledge on the subject of which you speak

[Dombaeb]

I have limited knowledge, but not "very limited" so I asked the question of how to change or control this character using certain settings. For example, 1:1 copied Dune 3 patches in Falcon sounds clear and definitive while the same in Dune - dirtier and more chaotic.

I know how synthesizer modules work and how they're setting up. You are operating with a concept "how can something with so many options have a unchangeable "character", I am operating with personal observation. No more, no less.

I read them perfectly, it seems clear you have very limited knowledge on the subject of which you speak

[chk071]

I had some similar discussions in the past when I said that I like pluck sounds or supersaws in other synths better. The argumentation was exactly the same as in this case: "You have no idea.", "You don't know how to program synthesizers." etc. The thing is, arguing like that doesn't make sense at all when I'm perfectly capable of programming nice sounding sounds in other synths.

Anyway, it's pretty pointless in the end. Everyone should use what they feel like. There's lots of soft synths out there.

[Dombaeb]

Initially, the point was to find out if it was possible to set up this synth to sound more focused and round And, with the help of some opinions and more personal tests, I realized that even if it is possible, it's easier to use another synthesizer. The case closed, thank you!

[AnX]

I had some similar discussions in the past when I said that I like pluck sounds or supersaws in other synths better.

preference is not the problem, it's your right

making false claims is a diff matter, especially when using terms you cannot or won't prove or back up.... snappy, muddy, dirty, and the funniest, chaotic

[Teksonik]

I'm not talking about a single waveform sound

Ok I got confused by the following statements:

it's analog-sounding dark resonating oscillators.

I'm pretty sure it's the specific character in Dune oscillators design

It sounded like you were talking about the raw Oscs which is why I posted the test.

Initially, the point was to find out if it was possible to set up this synth to sound more focused and round

If you could post an example of what you mean by "more focused and round" maybe we could help you achieve that sound in Dune 3.

I don't care if anyone dislikes Dune 3 as long as their opinion is not formed on incomplete or incorrect information. I've spent quite lot of time with D3 and if I can help dispel any misconceptions about it then I'm more than willing to do so.

[chk071]

Initially, the point was to find out if it was possible to set up this synth to sound more focused and round And, with the help of some opinions and more personal tests, I realized that even if it is possible, it's easier to use another synthesizer. The case closed, thank you!

That's exactly how I handle it as well, going the easy way. Anything else, or even discuss about it is a waste of time. Every piece of software is the vision of the people behind it, and that's cool, as a customer, everyone can device for him-/herself.

[AnX]

For example, 1:1 copied Dune 3 patches in Falcon sounds clear and definitive while the same in Dune - dirtier and more chaotic.

2 totally diff synths.... do they have the same code, same filters, envs and mods etc? no, so it's impossible to copy a sound 1:1

why not upload this experiment of yours, if anything, it might be a useful study

without audio tho, your words are meaningless

[Dombaeb]

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[Dombaeb]

Dune example:
https://we.tl/t-nqpHE5SZnT

Falcon example (another noise generator but everything is the same, including peaks volume):
https://we.tl/t-BWulQJbcxi

Sorry, I didn't find yet a better solution to attach audio.

For example, 1:1 copied Dune 3 patches in Falcon sounds clear and definitive while the same in Dune - dirtier and more chaotic.

2 totally diff synths.... do they have the same code, same filters, envs and mods etc? no, so it's impossible to copy a sound 1:1

why not upload this experiment of yours, if anything, it might be a useful study

without audio tho, your words are meaningless

[zvenx]

For what it is worth..... (and I haven't been following intently along to see what the debate is this moment) but I definitely prefer the Dune version.
Seems to have more character to me (is that what you describe as dirtier and more chaotic?)
rsp

[Dombaeb]

I would prefer Dune for some cases too, for industrial sounds, for example (I like it a lot). The whole case is not about which is "better" but about sound characteristics.

For what it is worth..... (and I haven't been following intently along to see what the debate is this moment) but I definitely prefer the Dune version.
Seems to have more character to me (is that what you describe as dirtier and more chaotic?)
rsp

[zvenx]

Got ya. I wasn't following intently.
rsp

[AnX]

Dune example:
https://we.tl/t-nqpHE5SZnT

Falcon example (another noise generator but everything is the same, including peaks volume):
https://we.tl/t-BWulQJbcxi

thanks....well, thats a very strange sound to use as an example, and the Dune one (when reversed) sound like it has a delay on it....the whole experiment is a bit of a mess....i thought you were looking for clarity in the sound?

[Dombaeb]

Delay, detune and a bit of reverb was used in both cases. As I said, there is no sense to me to compare sawtooth waves without any effects and detune. I made more identical patches with other combinations and made conclusions for myself. The main one - synths really have characters, I didn't give it much thought. Personally, it was very useful for self-educational purposes

Dune example:
https://we.tl/t-nqpHE5SZnT

Falcon example (another noise generator but everything is the same, including peaks volume):
https://we.tl/t-BWulQJbcxi

thanks....well, thats a very strange sound to use as an example, and the Dune one (when reversed) sound like it has a delay on it....the whole experiment is a bit of a mess....i thought you were looking for clarity in the sound?