Has support been dropped for Intel Celeron?
- KVRian
- 766 posts since 25 Jul, 2010 from Northern Ireland
I've noticed since version 11.5.6 that Waveform will no longer run on my Lenovo ideapad ( running Ubuntu 20.04 budgie ).
I use this netbook for sketching ideas and although it isn't exactly a power horse, it is surprising capable of running quite a few instances of Vital synth etc.
The machine has an Intel Celeron dual core chip and the error thrown at runtime is a sigkill with" illegal instruction ( core dumped )'
Thanks guys.
I use this netbook for sketching ideas and although it isn't exactly a power horse, it is surprising capable of running quite a few instances of Vital synth etc.
The machine has an Intel Celeron dual core chip and the error thrown at runtime is a sigkill with" illegal instruction ( core dumped )'
Thanks guys.
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- KVRian
- 1062 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand
which model celeron? If it's older it's probably the lack of avx (only the very latest generation of celeron's have grown avx support - previously celeron/pentium lacked it)
- KVRian
- 1300 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
Linux now requires at least Sandy Bridge. GCC was generating much slower code if we allowed older processors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge
- KVRist
- 171 posts since 24 Jan, 2019
Someone needs to update the product pages on tracktion.com. They used to specify Core Duo, but now just say "64 bit", which is a lesser requirement.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 766 posts since 25 Jul, 2010 from Northern Ireland
I wonder does Waveforms internal code depend/require the actual avx &&|| sse instruction set to function ( with the new engine ) properly?
I think it's possible on Linux for some Intel chipsets to upgrade the required libs ( if the functionality is there obviously )
It may even be possible ( this is just my thinking without any research ) to hack the kernel or some microcode to trick the system into believing it is capable?
Would be good to hear from the Devs on their knowledge on the subject.
Thanks.
I think it's possible on Linux for some Intel chipsets to upgrade the required libs ( if the functionality is there obviously )
It may even be possible ( this is just my thinking without any research ) to hack the kernel or some microcode to trick the system into believing it is capable?
Would be good to hear from the Devs on their knowledge on the subject.
Thanks.
- KVRian
- 1300 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
We have a lot more users that we expected still using older computers, so we are hopefully going to find a way to remove this requirement.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 766 posts since 25 Jul, 2010 from Northern Ireland
Thanks Figbug, as long as it doesn't cause problems with the new engine It would be good to keep support for older chips I guess.
- KVRian
- 1300 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
What CPU do you have? We are thinking of supporting Nahalem and newer. That's 2008 and newer CPU. Gets us SSE4.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_( ... hitecture)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_( ... hitecture)
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 766 posts since 25 Jul, 2010 from Northern Ireland
@FigBug My CPU is a ' goldmont_plus ' N4020 . I believe this is a late 2019 processor (formerly Gemini Lake Refresh)
According to what I have seen so far, SSE-4.2 should be supported ( maybe a Linux thing tho ? )
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... 0-ghz.html
According to what I have seen so far, SSE-4.2 should be supported ( maybe a Linux thing tho ? )
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... 0-ghz.html
- KVRian
- 1300 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
Can you try this version on Linux and let me know if it works with your CPU: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfdl059vw297b ... 1.deb?dl=0
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 766 posts since 25 Jul, 2010 from Northern Ireland
Yes this version is working for me now thanks @FigBugFigBug wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:21 pm Can you try this version on Linux and let me know if it works with your CPU: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfdl059vw297b ... 1.deb?dl=0
- KVRian
- 1300 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
That's good. Can you comment on performance. How does the new engine compare to the old engine in regards to CPU usage?mikoatkvr wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:47 pmYes this version is working for me now thanks @FigBugFigBug wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:21 pm Can you try this version on Linux and let me know if it works with your CPU: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfdl059vw297b ... 1.deb?dl=0![]()
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 766 posts since 25 Jul, 2010 from Northern Ireland
I will do some tests this evening as I have actually just did a reinstall of Ubuntu on this very machine last night and will need to spend a few hours tweaking the system to get the best possible configs for audio i/o / low latency etcThat's good. Can you comment on performance. How does the new engine compare to the old engine in regards to CPU usage?
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- KVRer
- 10 posts since 22 Nov, 2020
I tried this on my old i5-750 running Linux Mint and it seems fine.FigBug wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:21 pm Can you try this version on Linux and let me know if it works with your CPU: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfdl059vw297b ... 1.deb?dl=0
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 4 Jul, 2009
Hi @FigBug,FigBug wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:08 am What CPU do you have? We are thinking of supporting Nahalem and newer. That's 2008 and newer CPU. Gets us SSE4.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_( ... hitecture)
Is there any chance of Phenom II getting support as well?
