Ouch... I first thought this was a typo and was gonna make a joke about it... gotta check out the threads with some pop corn.
Your opinion about Zebra 2
- u-he
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I always thought of Cat Stevens as folksy but my favorite tune is 'C 79'
Doesn't Seven Hundred Elves by Steeleye Span feature a moog?
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
But sometimes "too complicated" means not "too complicated to learn" but "too many steps to get the desired result".
I think there was a synth designed with "less is more" paradigm in mind, whose name starts with H. That's a more preferable approach to me, and probably to many other people.
Idk, I'm spoiled by your other offerings, whenever I try to make some use of Zebra I end up being distracted by Hive or Bazille or Repro - they just do the job much faster.
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- KVRAF
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- addled muppet weed
- 105849 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
problem with the "trance kiddies" isn't so much that they are dumb, it's all the mdma and speed means they have very short attention spans
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
unless you put a horn on his head, then he's a unizeb
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- addled muppet weed
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- u-he
- 28063 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Well, thing is, a vile comment is a vile comment. Pointing that out does not equal calling potential customers vile. There has to be a lot more than one comment before I'd call a person vileghettosynth wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:48 pmIndeed they do. For example, some people who might not quite understand the subtlety of what a phrase like "too complicated" can mean contextually, or the difference between "well thought out" and "good."Urs wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:03 pmHehehe, you make it sound as if that was a bad thing. But I'm sure I've read from people who weren't "inspired" by Zebra a few dozen times, likewise any of the other points. Sure, people rarely describe themselves as "too dumb", but I'm sure I've even experienced that. Some people do sound a tad ignorant though, the way they brush a well thought out design off as "too complicated".recursive one wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:48 pmOn the other hand, I often see allegations that people who don't like Zebra, aren't inspired by the sound, think it's too complicated, think it doens't fit their preferred genres of worklow habits etc, are just too dumb to master it or have wrong tastes in synths or music.
What people often mean by "too complicated" is "unnecessarily complicated for the task that needs to be performed." If I need to compute the area of a picture frame and someone says that I should use calculus then I might reply "naw, too complicated." I don't mean that calculus is too complicated, I mean that it's unnecessarily complicated for the task at hand. Granted, that's not really a difficult integration, but it's completely unnecessary and will involve, at minimum, a few additional pencil strokes over just taking the product of the length and width.
So, is the design of zebra "unnecessarily complicated?" Perhaps. I think that part of the problem comes from the difficulty of constraining semi-modular synths to a narrow portal and how the choices that result can limit rapid interaction with the synth. Part of the problem could also come, however, from your "well thought out" choices and that people think that other vendors make better choices. Hence, "too complicated" means "more complicated as compared to something else that I like better."
"Well thought out" doesn't necessarily mean "good." Of course here "good" must be quantified in some way. However, for the end user, it does not. Good is summed up by their choice to purchase or not to purchase and it is an opinion that, like it or not, you must, in aggregate, accept.
Finally, I think that all of this is a bad look. Telling your potential customers that they are "vile", I believe that's the word that you used, or "dumb" is the definition of unnecessary and counterproductive. You have an opportunity in threads like this. You can read what people say, aggregate that, and decide for yourself if any of those ideas could be used to create more customers. You are not your customer so to equivocate your posts to theirs is erroneous on its face. In essence, I don't believe that you are changing people's minds by chortling at opinions in a discussion thread about your product.
A well thought out concept is a well thought out concept - but it doesn't mean it's the right concept for everyone. And surely, a concept like Zebra is inherently "complicated". It is however not all that complicated for what it does, thanks to its very well thought out concept. Yet again, if "for what it does" is not what someone needs, then surely it's too complicated for what they want to do.
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- KVRAF
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
sounds like a horny pussy
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