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telecode · Post by **telecode** » Sat May 01, 2021 3:50 am

aMUSEd wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:41 pm
telecode wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:21 pm Is anyone using Pigments 3 on Maschine. I am getting a thing where it shows in the NKS browser and I can scroll through the presets, but when I actually try to click to insert it -- it errors out with "file not found".
I'm not getting this in Komplete Kontrol, which is pretty much the same thing, but it is clear that Arturia do need to update Pigments NKS implementation (along with some other VColl8 plugins) so maybe that is why?

I am not getting the issue in KK either. But I do get it in Maschine. Thanks. I was not aware it wasn't NKS ready yet. I asumed it was as it shows up in Maschine and allows for browsing of presets. I guess I will wait for Arturia to patch it.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sat May 01, 2021 3:56 pm

Here's a patch to test the CPU of your system. I didn't pay any attention to the CPU demand while programming it on my studio system but I moved it to this system and the patch will choke it out in five seconds by holding only one note. It's a really simple sound but reducing the polyphony to three will take the CPU demand down while still allowing the patch to "breathe".

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Sat May 01, 2021 10:44 pm

I tried to import that preset but cannot find it in Pigments. I added the file extension .pgtx to 'Contemplate Tek' and Pigments says it imported OK, but it's nowhere to be found...

jdoo · Post by **jdoo** » Sat May 01, 2021 11:51 pm

Analog Lab 5.2.0 came out today. It supports the new Pigments version. The big deal here (for me) - is the new Pigments patches can be mapped from my controller (from inside Analog Lab standalone). This allows Program Changes, and Session control for Novation SL MKIII users of Pigments. Nice addition / support.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun May 02, 2021 1:47 am

zzz00m wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 10:44 pm I tried to import that preset but cannot find it in Pigments. I added the file extension .pgtx to 'Contemplate Tek' and Pigments says it imported OK, but it's nowhere to be found...

I just dropped the file into one of my folders, shows up here. No need to import as it doesn't use any custom wavetables or samples.

Here I exported the preset. This file you can import. It should end up in the user bank.

Pigments_Preset_Contemplate Tek_20210501_18h55.zip

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sun May 02, 2021 2:09 am

It seems a good recent CPU makes a difference! I just tested Pigments preset "Dark Strings of Heaven" with the Ryzen 5800x and at 48khz and 128 playing many chords fast, and it is barely reaches 33% inside Cubase (which is running fine now without any spikes!). However, I did make a fresh install in a new SSD with a new motherboard and memory. I also installed the latest nVidia driver that gave me a choice between a gamer edition and a Pro edition, so I chose the 'pro' edition. So, maybe all that is making my new experience worth all the money spent on upgrade

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun May 02, 2021 2:20 am

Now try the patch I posted above....

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sun May 02, 2021 2:40 am

Teksonik wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 2:20 am Now try the patch I posted above....

Very nice preset. I like it

Yes, this one is heavy, but I could play it without any crackles or clicks

The CPU is max %71.

trusampler · Post by **trusampler** » Sun May 02, 2021 2:47 am

Arturia's V-collection/Pigments as far as Midi mapping is among the best now, especially patch changes, other developers like Native, Uvi , U-he, Tone2 etc need to take notes, Arturia's killing it right now! I even picked up a Keylab MK2 61 just for the integration,although mapping my other hardware is a breeze too,but definitely needed an extra midi controller since I sold off Komplete Kontrol mk2,and the waste of time that was.

dupont · Post by **dupont** » Sun May 02, 2021 7:24 am

Do you find Pigment is weak on the low end spectrum ?
I compared a simple PWM with spire and pigment and spire clearly add more low end.
Pigment is too focussed on mid range and top audio spectrum.

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sun May 02, 2021 7:25 am

Teksonik wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 2:20 am Now try the patch I posted above....

52% @41kHz 12ms latency on Renoise.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sun May 02, 2021 7:53 am

dupont wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 7:24 am Do you find Pigment is weak on the low end spectrum ?
I compared a simple PWM with spire and pigment and spire clearly add more low end.
Pigment is too focussed on mid range and top audio spectrum.

When I run Massive X, I feel that besides some other synths. That's being said, I still find MX and some other synths like Razor and Bazille (not talking about Diva or other analogue synths) make me more "wow" and moved more than Pigments. I think Pigments is an excellent good general synth. Something like Zebra but more modern for leads, pads and effects.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Sun May 02, 2021 8:47 am

Where does the high CPU consumption come from? At least with wavetables and even with Unison, it shouldn't be that high.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sun May 02, 2021 8:56 am

To be honest, I think the cpu consumption is too high for the sound quality! It seems mostly from the granular engine and additive engine.
But, I think if we use it carefully, we can achieve good results without that high cpu. Maybe one engine is enough (with the utility engine).

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun May 02, 2021 9:12 am

dupont wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 7:24 am Do you find Pigment is weak on the low end spectrum ?
I compared a simple PWM with spire and pigment and spire clearly add more low end.
Pigment is too focussed on mid range and top audio spectrum.

Make sure to deactivate the "warm" algorithm in Spire's master section though, otherwise you will get some bass boost.

That said, I'm sure it'll still be more beefy then. I tend to use the modulator in Pigments with a sine wave, to add a bit of beef.

Arturia Pigments 3 is out!