Best resynthesis instrument?

[Examigan]

Loom II ?

Can it do resynthesis of samples? If so, I should check it out.

[ChamomileShark]

Arturia's Synclavier II does resynthesis - I've had some good results but mainly bad ones - not really sure why.

[fmr]

Arturia's Synclavier II does resynthesis - I've had some good results but mainly bad ones - not really sure why.

You have to carefully define the nodes after the analysis (how many and where are they placed). It's not a set-and-go process. You can get very good results, but it takes time and work (and knowledge about the audio).

[ChamomileShark]

yes, I'd read that. I found a post by someone who had done some vocal resynthesis on the original hardware as well as the software and he shared tips re node placement and using the auto-tune.

Curiously I think I got good results myself on a vocal phrase and I think it was a sample of a Santur. Bad results with a gong. Maybe that's down to all the inharmonics? But I thought there was something else that failed - can't remember now. The hardware Synclavier resynthesis disks show it can be done though! (they are available for import to Synclavier V on FB from Cameron Jones).

[carrieres]

Loom II ?

Can it do resynthesis of samples? If so, I should check it out.

i don't know but you can load two waves, there are talking about vocoder, but the user guide is not enough detailled imho

[carrieres]

This video show resynthesis inside Loom II :
https://youtu.be/SCujIf5eJ2w?t=583

[Resetti]

For what its worth, if you still have it laying around on your shelf, Cakewalk's Rapture Does a very nice resynthesis of samples, and yes, Harmor is still a favorite as well.

[stevebard]

How many kinds of resynthesis are there- granular, wavetable, additive, spectral? what are their differences? What are they most useful for?
I seem to remember years back a kind of holy grail of resynthesis being to be able to eg enter a just a few (piano, vocal, flute, etc) samples of an instrument at a few different velocities and pitches and interpolate between them so as to create a realistic playable instrument? Has any progress been made here?

[carrieres]

How many kinds of resynthesis are there- granular, wavetable, additive, spectral? what are their differences? What are they most useful for?
I seem to remember years back a kind of holy grail of resynthesis being to be able to eg enter a just a few (piano, vocal, flute, etc) samples of an instrument at a few different velocities and pitches and interpolate between them so as to create a realistic playable instrument? Has any progress been made here?

Steve, you should create a new topic with your question as subject, you will have a lot more answers

[stevebard]

Hi Carrieres- I saw my questions as an expanding, unpacking of the original post, but thanks for you suggestion. I may follow it if I don't get much joy here

[ChamomileShark]

How many kinds of resynthesis are there- granular, wavetable, additive, spectral? what are their differences? What are they most useful for?
I seem to remember years back a kind of holy grail of resynthesis being to be able to eg enter a just a few (piano, vocal, flute, etc) samples of an instrument at a few different velocities and pitches and interpolate between them so as to create a realistic playable instrument? Has any progress been made here?

For me it's just the spectral which might use additive. Re the Holy Grail, I remember that in the 70s it was to be able to take the sound of a piano, stretch, pitch and more importantly change the harmonic structure. So for me, granular and wavetable aren't resynthesis.

[stevebard]

My understanding of this area is very basic but in a sense isn't it re-synthesis when you sample a sound and it sounds just like a straightforward recording of the original sound but actually in being brought into your sampler it's been split up in one of its dimensions (eg time or spectrum) and only apparently been put back together again so that you can manipulate its 'secret' divisions in a way you can't with a standard sample. In this sense wouldn't granular and wavetable qualify as re-synthesis?

[aMUSEd]

I don't think so with wavetables because you are still dealing with whole samples, just strung together into a wavetable (except in the case of those wavetable synths that can create wavetables additively - maybe some of them can do resynthesis - apparently Parawave can for example)

With granular yes afaik (I am no expert) you can do a form of resynthesis - I know that the Roland V-Synth has been described as having granular resynthesis capabilities, and this article confirms that you can use granular this way, but I would expect the results would not be as well defined or smooth as with high quality additive resynthesis

https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... -synthesis

[FapFilter]

never really used granular as i never found good use for it, but to my understanding granular in it's principle basically is “just“ sample playback.
it just focuses on very small snippets and may have one or two tricks your regular sampler might lack or is not as good or fast for such “microscopic dissections“.
Synthesis can be anything anyway. Back in the 80's at least here in Germany samplers were called sampling synthesizers too.

[danielh02]

This is a good overview of the options for spectral resynthesis using Alchemy and Logic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-3atLSbUlM

-Dan