I'm sure that'll happen in the process of moving from eLicenser to their new system. Although "drama free" is subjective, of course.ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 8:03 pm If Steinberg would free their little player instrument from the dongle and just make it a free instrument download without drama
Arturia Pigments 3 is out!
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- KVRAF
- 35439 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
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- KVRian
- 1289 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
Retrologue is not part of Halion - it's a separate instrument: https://new.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/
I think it's OK, but nothing special - just average. https://new.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/retrologue/
Padshop is also a separate instrument, but it's not a VA - it's granular/spectral:
https://new.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/padshop/
I think it's OK, but nothing special - just average. https://new.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/retrologue/
Padshop is also a separate instrument, but it's not a VA - it's granular/spectral:
https://new.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/padshop/
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- KVRAF
- 35439 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I know. And, I'm sure that ghettosynth knows too.felis wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:53 pm Retrologue is not part of Halion - it's a separate instrument: https://new.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/
Padshop is also a separate instrument, but it's not a VA - it's granular/spectral:
https://new.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/padshop/
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- KVRian
- 1289 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
You both know more than me then. I still get confused with Steinberg stuff.
I mistakenly said Trip and Trium are in Halion - they're not.
Trium, which is one of the VA types I mentioned isn't in Halion, it's only in Absolute.
And Trip - another one I mentioned as a VA I liked is only in Cubase.
Neither one of those is in Halion. Voltage is in Halion though.
Oh crap - this is the Pigments thread. Getting way off topic here. I really like Pigments 3.
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Yes, at no time did I suggest that Retrologue is a part of Halion. What is a part of Halion is the same VA technology that is used in Retrologue. Halion doesn't contain any better VA elements than are in Steinberg's best VA synth.chk071 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:57 pmI know. And, I'm sure that ghettosynth knows too.felis wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:53 pm Retrologue is not part of Halion - it's a separate instrument: https://new.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/
Padshop is also a separate instrument, but it's not a VA - it's granular/spectral:
https://new.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/padshop/
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Those are both just Halion instruments built with the basic components in Halion. It's just a rearrangement of the same components that you can use to build your own synth in Halion.felis wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:04 pmYou both know more than me then. I still get confused with Steinberg stuff.
I mistakenly said Trip and Trium are in Halion - they're not.
Trium, which is one of the VA types I mentioned isn't in Halion, it's only in Absolute.
And Trip - another one I mentioned as a VA I liked is only in Cubase.
Neither one of those is in Halion.
I don't think that any of the synths that are bundled with and built with Halion can compete with Pigments in really any way. Using Halion Sonic SE instruments isn't what I'm talking about when I refer to Halion as being a migraine. I'm talking about building something quickly in a similarly flexible way that you can in Pigments. Selecting several interesting sound sources and combining them with filters and effects of your choosing and then adjusting the modulation, this can be done in Halion, it's just not easy like it is in Pigments.
- Banned
- 995 posts since 4 Feb, 2021
With three osc in the va section, you can make as many three octaved fat minimoog basses that you like. I just made a couple myself. Or just heavy two octaved. You can do the same on Pigment as you can with the mini and many others. You can vary with the digital oscs. Endless possibilities.
Tribe Of Hǫfuð https://soundcloud.com/user-228690154 "First rule: From one perfect consonance to another perfect consonance one must proceed in contrary or oblique motion." Johann Joseph Fux 1725.
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- KVRian
- 1289 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
I disagree, but I'll leave it at that.ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:34 pm ....I don't think that any of the synths that are bundled with and built with Halion can compete with Pigments in really any way.
I agree, and I've said so earlier in the thread. Pigments is quick and easy to get around, and to get good sounds from. I haven't fully explored it yet, but I think it's one of the better soft synth purchases I've made. Inspiring stuff.ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:34 pm ...I'm talking about building something quickly in a similarly flexible way that you can in Pigments. Selecting several interesting sound sources and combining them with filters and effects of your choosing and then adjusting the modulation, this can be done in Halion, it's just not easy like it is in Pigments.
- KVRAF
- 5506 posts since 23 Aug, 2014 from Boston/Cambridge
Yep, compared to Warlock, Vital, Go2, ANA2 and even Hive2. IMO they lack the organic sound quality I appreciate so much in Pigments 3, as if they answer to a different sound directive related to (hyper)saw origins or harsh sonic fx treatment. It’s certainly a matter of taste and musical preference (or even GUI).
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- KVRist
- 171 posts since 8 Jun, 2019
From the company that kills VST2 rather than make it open source, I doubt it...chk071 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 8:06 pmI'm sure that'll happen in the process of moving from eLicenser to their new system. Although "drama free" is subjective, of course.ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 8:03 pm If Steinberg would free their little player instrument from the dongle and just make it a free instrument download without drama
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- KVRist
- 490 posts since 14 Oct, 2006
How would you guys compare pigments 3 to hydrasynth? Both seem to offer a lot of modulation capabilities and synth engines.