New T-RackS Compressor

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KVRAF
2759 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Thu May 13, 2021 2:56 am

fceramic wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 9:30 am
It's such a shame that their customer service is terrible, their plugins crash regularly and the software installation is ridiculous, cause I really like how their stuff sounds. Hope they will improve.
No crashes on my end. For installation I use a virtual machine and then extract the individual dlls I need from that and then use the IK utility to activate them on my main machine.
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2290 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Thu May 13, 2021 3:06 am

v1o wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 2:56 am
fceramic wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 9:30 am
It's such a shame that their customer service is terrible, their plugins crash regularly and the software installation is ridiculous, cause I really like how their stuff sounds. Hope they will improve.
No crashes on my end. For installation I use a virtual machine and then extract the individual dlls I need from that and then use the IK utility to activate them on my main machine.
thats an interesting idea. until they kill support for their old IKM utility and make you use the new Product Manager exclusively.

My favorite thing about that new product manager is that it allows you to install products to demo. But there is no functionality built in to uninstall the demo from your system if you don't like it. It's a big, buy it now and f**k you -- figure out how to remove it yourself you sucker! The Product Manager reveals a lot about who IKM really is as a company. They make NI and Arturia seem like class acts in this business.
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KVRAF
15395 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 am

pixel85 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 12:39 am
I expect a lot of bashing from Distressor users.
Of course, anyone who paid $1500 for the hardware unit is never going to admit a $99 plugin sounds just as good or better even if it does.
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KVRian
1167 posts since 11 Apr, 2008

Post Thu May 13, 2021 6:03 am

Teksonik wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 am
pixel85 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 12:39 am
I expect a lot of bashing from Distressor users.
Of course, anyone who paid $1500 for the hardware unit is never going to admit a $99 plugin sounds just as good or better even if it does.
I'm waiting more for the software vs software war, so against Sknote, Eli and Softube emulations :)
But somehow it's a very quiet release. No hype, no bashing, no first impressions besides the one in this topic. I expected a hot topic for Distressor emulation. Maybe if it was Waves or especially PA, it wouldn't be that quiet ;)
Beware! The software discussed in this topic has unacceptable aliasing at -386dBTP but it can be fixed by changing the sample rate to 12Bit

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KVRAF
15395 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Thu May 13, 2021 6:16 am

It is odd that IK has been quiet so far. Maybe it's because they still have the TRacks sale going on now.

I've got so many other compressors several of which are TRacks I'm not sure I'll go through the effort to demo this one. I'm sure it will require an update either to the Custom Shop, TRacks or both maybe even the Product Manager.
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KVRAF
8477 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Thu May 13, 2021 6:29 am

You’ve got UAD, Slate, Empirical Labs, SKNote, and Kush all with their own Distressor emulations. Most of those having been licensed. So with IK coming out late with an unlicensed version that doesn’t look like the hardware, it isn’t too surprising to me there isn’t more hubbub. Dave Derr has a trademark on the big white knobs and seems very protective of his IP. That could also be playing a factor on the low key release. Maybe they couldn’t come to an agreement.

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KVRAF
7310 posts since 20 Oct, 2009

Post Thu May 13, 2021 6:49 am

pixel85 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 12:39 am
Interesting... IKM didn't post about this plugin on Gearslutz. Somebody else did, unofficially. I expect a lot of bashing from Distressor users.
Gearspace posts new product threads themselves when they receive the PR. That's been the way for a long while. Nothing shocking there.

And about being quiet? I posted Comprexxor to the KVR database last night before the official release this morning and the news was posted in the admin area for approval yesterday as well. It should be published by now as I chose a time that was near the official PR release.

As for responding to snap judgments here so far, this isn't my first stop of the day and I agree with the sentiment that it is available to demo so people can come to a conclusion vs the opinion of others to see if they agree or disagree at this early point.
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KVRAF
3843 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Thu May 13, 2021 7:21 am

Teksonik wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 am
pixel85 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 12:39 am
I expect a lot of bashing from Distressor users.
Of course, anyone who paid $1500 for the hardware unit is never going to admit a $99 plugin sounds just as good or better even if it does.
It's even better for the Weiss that's an actual codeport.
https://reverb.com/item/34248055-weiss- ... 2016-white
The difference between the hardware and the plugin is that the hardware have is own DSP that is used fully for process the sound, the plugin use the computer processor that, as you know, make a lot of operation at the same time and this make the plugin not detailed as the hardware.
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KVRAF
15395 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Thu May 13, 2021 7:36 am

Yes if you pay $6900 or whatever that guy paid for the hardware unit you're never going to admit the plugin sounds as good. Especially when you're trying to sucker errr I mean convince someone to buy your hardware unit. :hihi:

I like this part..... "the plugin use the computer processor that, as you know, make a lot of operation at the same time and this make the plugin not detailed as the hardware". :lol:
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KVRian
1167 posts since 11 Apr, 2008

Post Thu May 13, 2021 7:41 am

Ploki wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 7:21 am
Teksonik wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 am
pixel85 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 12:39 am
I expect a lot of bashing from Distressor users.
Of course, anyone who paid $1500 for the hardware unit is never going to admit a $99 plugin sounds just as good or better even if it does.
It's even better for the Weiss that's an actual codeport.
https://reverb.com/item/34248055-weiss- ... 2016-white
The difference between the hardware and the plugin is that the hardware have is own DSP that is used fully for process the sound, the plugin use the computer processor that, as you know, make a lot of operation at the same time and this make the plugin not detailed as the hardware.
I didn't read GS topic about Weiss but I got the impression from comments here and there that Softube/Weiss plugins are considered as great sounding. Not game changers because it's not PA ;) but still, they have good opinions.
Beware! The software discussed in this topic has unacceptable aliasing at -386dBTP but it can be fixed by changing the sample rate to 12Bit

KVRAF
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Post Thu May 13, 2021 7:52 am

pixel85 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 7:41 am

I didn't read GS topic about Weiss but I got the impression from comments here and there that Softube/Weiss plugins are considered as great sounding. Not game changers because it's not PA ;) but still, they have good opinions.
Yeah - but there's still a few oddballs that insist digtal hardware sounds better. mostly saw it in Mastering groups tho.
Someone argued that it sounds different because it's different architecture.
I then asked if i can expect different sound on Apple ARM architecture and they blocked me.
But then again, there was a guy on GS that argued that Apple M1 does sum better in protools (Via rosetta no less)

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KVRian
1167 posts since 11 Apr, 2008

Post Thu May 13, 2021 7:56 am

Ploki wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 7:52 am
pixel85 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 7:41 am

I didn't read GS topic about Weiss but I got the impression from comments here and there that Softube/Weiss plugins are considered as great sounding. Not game changers because it's not PA ;) but still, they have good opinions.
Yeah - but there's still a few oddballs that insist digtal hardware sounds better. mostly saw it in Mastering groups tho.
Someone argued that it sounds different because it's different architecture.
I then asked if i can expect different sound on Apple ARM architecture and they blocked me.
But then again, there was a guy on GS that argued that Apple M1 does sum better in protools (Via rosetta no less)

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

But the world is more colorful thanks to people like that :)
The only thing that eventually could be different, would be oversampling. Let's say hardware has x16 OS while plugin has none or x2 - then it's possible that there will be some/huge/tiny difference.

Nothing better than the feeling of being blocked for pointing out stupidity ;)

Better summing with M1 - this is great. I couldn't make this up myself :lol:
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KVRAF
7310 posts since 20 Oct, 2009

Post Thu May 13, 2021 8:12 am

Sorry I did forget to address one thing from earlier in the thread, though. There was a video posted which was made before IK Product Manager and is talking about Total Studio 2 MAX so those concerns have been addressed.

Which, by the way, if you do have that you can get Total Studio 3 MAX for quite a deal, and note that we've added T-RackS Comprexxor to Total Studio 3 MAX for a limited time.
All current Total Studio 3 MAX users and those who purchase Total Studio 3 MAX before June 30, 2021 will receive a free copy of T-RackS Comprexxor.
EXPOSED (as sounding ******* fantastic!)
T-RackS Sunset Sound Studio Reverb

KVRAF
1964 posts since 16 Jan, 2013

Post Thu May 13, 2021 10:05 am

Teksonik wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 6:16 am
I've got so many other compressors several of which are TRacks I'm not sure I'll go through the effort to demo this one. I'm sure it will require an update either to the Custom Shop, TRacks or both maybe even the Product Manager.
If you use the Tape Machines, the release notes for T-RackS 5.5.0 list a fix for the channel distortion bug with the A80 model.
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KVRAF
15395 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Thu May 13, 2021 10:10 am

sprnva wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 10:05 am
Teksonik wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 6:16 am
I've got so many other compressors several of which are TRacks I'm not sure I'll go through the effort to demo this one. I'm sure it will require an update either to the Custom Shop, TRacks or both maybe even the Product Manager.
If you use the Tape Machines, the release notes for T-RackS 5.5.0 list a fix for the channel distortion bug with the A80 model.
Thanks but I don't use tape machines.
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