MPC Live 2 fun factor

Anything about hardware musical instruments.
User avatar
KVRAF
19457 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:19 am

roman.i wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:02 am
Thanks, and what do you think about the Octatrack mk2? Looks like fun to use, even that It doesn’t support overbridge and cv outputs…
I've got 4 Elektron boxes. Never bought the Octatrack cause when I played with it in the shop (pre-Covid) it had too much complexity and button combos for me. I knew it was past my personal threshold where the complexity gets in the way. Someone else, it may be perfect for them. I would rather have a Digitakt. Even though it is much less capable, it is more immediate and fun and I think it sounds better without effort.

I would have purchased the Digitakt to go with my other Elektron boxes except I pre-ordered the S2400 which is also an 8 voice sampler/groovebox.

User avatar
KVRAF
19457 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:40 am

roman.i wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:57 am
By fun I mean engaging, a device that has a fast workflow, sounds good but limiting in a good way. So after a hour or two I’ll have a result.
With the price range of some of the gear you have asked about, I think it is worth a look at the S2400. I don't have mine yet (approx 4-6 weeks until it arrives) but from watching the various videos, it looks hands on fun to me in a way that almost nothing else in that category does. Nice spacious size with the faders and main controls having plenty of room.

If you need something that has midi tracks to drive other gear, the S2400 doesn't do that... yet. There is some talk to add that in a firmware update, but who knows when or if that will happen. The firmware development has been impressive over the past months as I've waited, but I still wouldn't buy it based on future feature expectations.

EDIT: I just saw an upcoming firmware video that shows midi tracks, full midi CC support and audio over USB (mains plus the 8 individual tracks) so it will soon be able to drive other synths.

If someone orders one today, it is looking like a Sept/Oct arrival time. After the current run is sold, then future availability is unknown as some parts are not available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDPvmgNTZhU

KVRist

Topic Starter

359 posts since 25 Aug, 2019

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:55 am

Thanks for help. Finally got a black Octatrack mk2 :)

KVRAF
7707 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:38 am

roman.i wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:55 am
Thanks for help. Finally got a black Octatrack mk2 :)
Good Luck! It's deep kit- watch a ton of YT videos, that how I got started with it!
PC, Studio One, BWS, Live, FL Studio, Renoise, Reason, X32 Desk, Hardware Synths, Drum Machines + Eurorack, TD27 V Drums, Guitars & Basses

User avatar
KVRAF
19457 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:28 am

roman.i wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:55 am
Thanks for help. Finally got a black Octatrack mk2 :)
:tu:

KVRAF
7707 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:04 pm

@pdxindy

Remind you of anything! Retro 12 bit drum samplers all the rage it seems!

https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2021 ... -like-one/
PC, Studio One, BWS, Live, FL Studio, Renoise, Reason, X32 Desk, Hardware Synths, Drum Machines + Eurorack, TD27 V Drums, Guitars & Basses

User avatar
KVRAF
19457 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:51 pm

SLiC wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:04 pm
@pdxindy

Remind you of anything! Retro 12 bit drum samplers all the rage it seems!

https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2021 ... -like-one/
What other 12 bit drum samplers are coming out?

This one is a unique Behringer box, but made to look like the LinnDrum outside. Odd name... LameDrum :hihi:

KVRAF
7707 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:31 pm

pdxindy wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:51 pm
SLiC wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:04 pm
@pdxindy

Remind you of anything! Retro 12 bit drum samplers all the rage it seems!

https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2021 ... -like-one/
What other 12 bit drum samplers are coming out?

This one is a unique Behringer box, but made to look like the LinnDrum outside. Odd name... LameDrum :hihi:
I was kidding….not many retro sampling 12 bit drum machines around, I am surprised there will be 2 options! This one may end up being quite good but I reckon several years before it hits the shops based on the 909!
PC, Studio One, BWS, Live, FL Studio, Renoise, Reason, X32 Desk, Hardware Synths, Drum Machines + Eurorack, TD27 V Drums, Guitars & Basses

User avatar
KVRAF
19457 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:09 pm

SLiC wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:31 pm
pdxindy wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:51 pm
SLiC wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:04 pm
@pdxindy

Remind you of anything! Retro 12 bit drum samplers all the rage it seems!

https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2021 ... -like-one/
What other 12 bit drum samplers are coming out?

This one is a unique Behringer box, but made to look like the LinnDrum outside. Odd name... LameDrum :hihi:
I was kidding….not many retro sampling 12 bit drum machines around, I am surprised there will be 2 options! This one may end up being quite good but I reckon several years before it hits the shops based on the 909!
Yeah, it looks like it could be interesting. But too far away to think about!

In the meanwhile, my S2400 should arrive in 4-5 weeks... In the next firmware update, Isla is adding midi tracks to drive other gear and also audio over usb plus the main track controls will send midi. Isla is adding undo too.

User avatar
KVRAF
1800 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from your mom

Post Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:40 pm

roman.i wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:11 am
Hi

Have anyone tried this machine and can give a review how fun it is (or not)?
Yes - I've got the MPC Live 2, and it's absolutely 100% fun to use and produce on... once you learn Akai's workflow on the current gen MPC's. Full disclosure: I started out with an MPC Touch, traded it in for the first-gen MPC Live, and then sold that to get the MPC Live 2 when it came out last year.

Aside from Akai's Force, the MPC (Live 2, One) are some of the most powerful mobile production boxes on the market. What they do, they do extremely well - and Akai is frequently updating them (for free!) and adding new features and improving them. If you take a look at the original MPC Live thread at Gearslutz, it's up to 900+ pages and keeps going. The MPC is one of the most popular hardware production machines around there, and for good reason. Over 27,000 replies and 2.4 million views.

That's not to say there aren't criticisms and ways it could be improved (nothing is perfect after all), but I would suggest you give one a try for yourself. Just purchase one from a reputable retailer that has a very liberal return policy, so if it turns out you don't like it, you can easily send it back and get a refund.


roman.i wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:55 am
Thanks for help. Finally got a black Octatrack mk2 :)

Booo! :lol:
Win 10 | Reason 11 | Studio One 4.6 | i7 3770 @ 3.5 Ghz | 16 GB RAM | RME Babyface Pro| Nektar Panorama P-4 | Akai MPC Live & Force | Roland System 8 | Roland TR-8 with 7x7 Expansion | Roland TB-3 | Roland MX-1 | Dreadbox Typhon | Korg Minilogue XD

User avatar
KVRist
92 posts since 25 May, 2012 from Sunny Philly

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:05 pm

If battery operation, speaker, hard drive, and extra outs arent important consider an MPC One, the extra buttons and its general layout are a bit better for workflow. Plus it saves a few bucks.

User avatar
KVRAF
19457 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:22 pm

kcearl wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:05 pm
If battery operation, speaker, hard drive, and extra outs arent important consider an MPC One, the extra buttons and its general layout are a bit better for workflow. Plus it saves a few bucks.
Welcome to KVR :hihi:

User avatar
KVRist
92 posts since 25 May, 2012 from Sunny Philly

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:32 pm

pdxindy wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:22 pm
kcearl wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:05 pm
If battery operation, speaker, hard drive, and extra outs arent important consider an MPC One, the extra buttons and its general layout are a bit better for workflow. Plus it saves a few bucks.
Welcome to KVR :hihi:
Since 2012 :D

User avatar
KVRist
92 posts since 25 May, 2012 from Sunny Philly

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:53 pm

pdxindy wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:40 am
roman.i wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:57 am
By fun I mean engaging, a device that has a fast workflow, sounds good but limiting in a good way. So after a hour or two I’ll have a result.
With the price range of some of the gear you have asked about, I think it is worth a look at the S2400. I don't have mine yet (approx 4-6 weeks until it arrives) but from watching the various videos, it looks hands on fun to me in a way that almost nothing else in that category does. Nice spacious size with the faders and main controls having plenty of room.

If you need something that has midi tracks to drive other gear, the S2400 doesn't do that... yet. There is some talk to add that in a firmware update, but who knows when or if that will happen. The firmware development has been impressive over the past months as I've waited, but I still wouldn't buy it based on future feature expectations.

EDIT: I just saw an upcoming firmware video that shows midi tracks, full midi CC support and audio over USB (mains plus the 8 individual tracks) so it will soon be able to drive other synths.

If someone orders one today, it is looking like a Sept/Oct arrival time. After the current run is sold, then future availability is unknown as some parts are not available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDPvmgNTZhU
I had the S2400 before it moved on to its next "owner"

Lovely bit of kit, well made, easy to use....would never replace any of the akais for me but great as an additional sampler

User avatar
KVRAF
19457 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:33 pm

kcearl wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:32 pm
pdxindy wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:22 pm
kcearl wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:05 pm
If battery operation, speaker, hard drive, and extra outs arent important consider an MPC One, the extra buttons and its general layout are a bit better for workflow. Plus it saves a few bucks.
Welcome to KVR :hihi:
Since 2012 :D
Yeah... plan B :tu:

Return to “Hardware (Instruments and Effects)”