Windows 11 coming very soon

[Passing Bye]

You know what? Even with a minimum amount of third party software installed, and completely standard user behavior, Mac OS and the software on it crashed a lot more than Windows whenever I used a Mac. But, shh, don't tell anyone, otherwise the mystic house of cards about the so much more stable and professional OS quickly folds up.

How can you managed to crash an OS in 2020? Sorry, seems unreal really...

[chk071]

Microsoft doesn't do that, OEM's do. Microsoft is shit at selling anything, they appear to have no concept of how the consumer market works.

Yet they have a net worth exceeding 1 trillion dollars...how did it all go so wrong for them?!

he's not claiming they don't have a successful business. just not so much in the comsumer space. they make the vast majority of their money by selling to enterprise.

And yet they have about 85% market share on private computers. How does that compute, when they "appear to have no concept how the consumer market works"?

I actually laughed out loud when I saw that they overtook Apple for some time as the world's most valuable enterprise. So much bullcrap gossip about Microsoft, almost ever since they exist.

You know what? Even with a minimum amount of third party software installed, and completely standard user behavior, Mac OS and the software on it crashed a lot more than Windows whenever I used a Mac. But, shh, don't tell anyone, otherwise the mystic house of cards about the so much more stable and professional OS quickly folds up.

How can you managed to crash an OS in 2020? Sorry, seems unreal really...

You want to give me your computer and we find out?

[Passing Bye]

You want to give me your computer and we find out?

[chk071]

Well, admittedly, almost all of the crashes these days are caused by installed, or pre-installed apps, not so much the system.

Pretty much since Windows XP, Windows is rock stable.

[Passing Bye]

Yeah, I had rock stable OS experience with both Windows and macOS last at least 10 years or more.

[BONES]

Yet they have a net worth exceeding 1 trillion dollars...how did it all go so wrong for them?!

That would be through their business customers, who tend to have very different needs and expectations to retail customers.

[kingozrecords]

Well, let's hope the telemetry is less while performing simple tasks. I notice even while scrolling a folder that there's too much thinking going on. I'm switching from defender to kaspersky cloud for that reason on My win10 machine.

[JamminFool]

Well, let's hope the telemetry is less while performing simple tasks. I notice even while scrolling a folder that there's too much thinking going on. I'm switching from defender to kaspersky cloud for that reason on My win10 machine.

why? what will that solve?

[JamminFool]

so now it appears there were mistakes made in at least one of the benchmark test results that were being published yesterday:

apparently they ran the benchmarks on Win 10 with "Recommended" Performance setting and the Win 11 on "High" Performance setting.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows- ... uge-margin

[south of the river]

I've heard that Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 get free update to 11. But Windows 8 user need to upgrade to 8.1 first to be able upgrade to 11

[chk071]

Yet to be confirmed really.

In 3 days, there'll be the reveal event from Microsoft.

[4damind]

so now it appears there were mistakes made in at least one of the benchmark test results that were being published yesterday:

apparently they ran the benchmarks on Win 10 with "Recommended" Performance setting and the Win 11 on "High" Performance setting.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows- ... uge-margin

Aah This means the "high performance" power management mode?

[JamminFool]

so now it appears there were mistakes made in at least one of the benchmark test results that were being published yesterday:

apparently they ran the benchmarks on Win 10 with "Recommended" Performance setting and the Win 11 on "High" Performance setting.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows- ... uge-margin

Aah This means the "high performance" power management mode?

exactly.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Things I'd like to see in Windows 11:

1. Use OS theming elements on non-UWP apps (e.g. make those Reaper elements look modern apps)
2. Native aggregated audio devices (borrowed from page 1)
3. Better low latency BT audio support (borrowed from page 1)
4. Improved MIDI timing/less jitter
5. Easier UI scaling for apps+developers (seems like Mac has had this sussed for years, while it's still a bit of a mess on Windows)

Things I think we'll actually get...start bar in middle, rounded corners.

[BONES]

And yet they have about 85% market share on private computers. How does that compute, when they "appear to have no concept how the consumer market works"?

That's down from 94% 20 years ago, so mostly it's about lack of awareness of any alternatives and the effort required to find/use them. In any event, nobody pays for Windows any more, it's pretty much a give-away these days.

How can you managed to crash an OS in 2020? Sorry, seems unreal really...

Easy enough when it's a Mac. We still get crashes at work but 99% of the time it's about the network, not any individual workstation.

5. Easier UI scaling for apps+developers (seems like Mac has had this sussed for years, while it's still a bit of a mess on Windows)

That's not true at all. Mac is actually worse than Windows in this regard, it's just that their users are more willing to put up with it. e.g. In Photoshop, MacOS scales the application GUI but not the image you are working on, so you have to scale that within Photoshop, which makes it look all jaggy. From my experience in beta programmes, it also seems that it's a lot more work for devs with macOS than Windows.