Windows 11 coming very soon

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KVRAF
2536 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:32 am

chk071 wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:10 am
You know what? Even with a minimum amount of third party software installed, and completely standard user behavior, Mac OS and the software on it crashed a lot more than Windows whenever I used a Mac. But, shh, don't tell anyone, otherwise the mystic house of cards about the so much more stable and professional OS quickly folds up. ;)
How can you managed to crash an OS in 2020? Sorry, seems unreal really...

KVRAF
28781 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:33 am

JamminFool wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:25 am
SLiC wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:38 am
BONES wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:04 pm
Microsoft doesn't do that, OEM's do. Microsoft is shit at selling anything, they appear to have no concept of how the consumer market works.
Yet they have a net worth exceeding 1 trillion dollars...how did it all go so wrong for them?! :dog:
he's not claiming they don't have a successful business. just not so much in the comsumer space. they make the vast majority of their money by selling to enterprise.
And yet they have about 85% market share on private computers. How does that compute, when they "appear to have no concept how the consumer market works"?

I actually laughed out loud when I saw that they overtook Apple for some time as the world's most valuable enterprise. So much bullcrap gossip about Microsoft, almost ever since they exist.
Passing Bye wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:32 am
chk071 wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:10 am
You know what? Even with a minimum amount of third party software installed, and completely standard user behavior, Mac OS and the software on it crashed a lot more than Windows whenever I used a Mac. But, shh, don't tell anyone, otherwise the mystic house of cards about the so much more stable and professional OS quickly folds up. ;)
How can you managed to crash an OS in 2020? Sorry, seems unreal really...
You want to give me your computer and we find out? :P
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KVRAF
2536 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:36 am

chk071 wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:33 am
You want to give me your computer and we find out? :P
:lol:

KVRAF
28781 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:47 am

Well, admittedly, almost all of the crashes these days are caused by installed, or pre-installed apps, not so much the system.

Pretty much since Windows XP, Windows is rock stable.
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KVRAF
2536 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:55 am

Yeah, I had rock stable OS experience with both Windows and macOS last at least 10 years or more.

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GRRRRRRR!
11916 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:19 am

SLiC wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:38 am
Yet they have a net worth exceeding 1 trillion dollars...how did it all go so wrong for them?! :dog:
That would be through their business customers, who tend to have very different needs and expectations to retail customers.
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KVRian
787 posts since 7 Apr, 2019 from Canada

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:47 am

Well, let's hope the telemetry is less while performing simple tasks. I notice even while scrolling a folder that there's too much thinking going on. I'm switching from defender to kaspersky cloud for that reason on My win10 machine.
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KVRian
1290 posts since 16 Apr, 2004

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:51 am

kingozrecords wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:47 am
Well, let's hope the telemetry is less while performing simple tasks. I notice even while scrolling a folder that there's too much thinking going on. I'm switching from defender to kaspersky cloud for that reason on My win10 machine.
why? what will that solve?

KVRian
1290 posts since 16 Apr, 2004

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:04 am

so now it appears there were mistakes made in at least one of the benchmark test results that were being published yesterday:

apparently they ran the benchmarks on Win 10 with "Recommended" Performance setting and the Win 11 on "High" Performance setting. :dog:

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows- ... uge-margin

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1 posts since 21 Jun, 2021

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:02 am

I've heard that Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 get free update to 11. But Windows 8 user need to upgrade to 8.1 first to be able upgrade to 11

KVRAF
28781 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:15 am

Yet to be confirmed really.

In 3 days, there'll be the reveal event from Microsoft.
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5418 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:32 am

JamminFool wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:04 am
so now it appears there were mistakes made in at least one of the benchmark test results that were being published yesterday:

apparently they ran the benchmarks on Win 10 with "Recommended" Performance setting and the Win 11 on "High" Performance setting. :dog:

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows- ... uge-margin
Aah ;) This means the "high performance" power management mode?

KVRian
1290 posts since 16 Apr, 2004

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:11 am

4damind wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:32 am
JamminFool wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:04 am
so now it appears there were mistakes made in at least one of the benchmark test results that were being published yesterday:

apparently they ran the benchmarks on Win 10 with "Recommended" Performance setting and the Win 11 on "High" Performance setting. :dog:

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows- ... uge-margin
Aah ;) This means the "high performance" power management mode?
exactly.

KVRAF
8555 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:37 am

Things I'd like to see in Windows 11:

1. Use OS theming elements on non-UWP apps (e.g. make those Reaper elements look modern apps)
2. Native aggregated audio devices (borrowed from page 1)
3. Better low latency BT audio support (borrowed from page 1)
4. Improved MIDI timing/less jitter
5. Easier UI scaling for apps+developers (seems like Mac has had this sussed for years, while it's still a bit of a mess on Windows)

Things I think we'll actually get...start bar in middle, rounded corners.

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GRRRRRRR!
11916 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:01 pm

chk071 wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:33 am
And yet they have about 85% market share on private computers. How does that compute, when they "appear to have no concept how the consumer market works"?
That's down from 94% 20 years ago, so mostly it's about lack of awareness of any alternatives and the effort required to find/use them. In any event, nobody pays for Windows any more, it's pretty much a give-away these days.
How can you managed to crash an OS in 2020? Sorry, seems unreal really...
Easy enough when it's a Mac. We still get crashes at work but 99% of the time it's about the network, not any individual workstation.
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:37 am
5. Easier UI scaling for apps+developers (seems like Mac has had this sussed for years, while it's still a bit of a mess on Windows)
That's not true at all. Mac is actually worse than Windows in this regard, it's just that their users are more willing to put up with it. e.g. In Photoshop, MacOS scales the application GUI but not the image you are working on, so you have to scale that within Photoshop, which makes it look all jaggy. From my experience in beta programmes, it also seems that it's a lot more work for devs with macOS than Windows.
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