T-2..? Sick of waiting...
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- KVRist
- 90 posts since 6 Jun, 2004 from New Hampshire, USA
i cut my teeth on acid 3. i don't see how acid 5 is any better than 4. i see tracktion as everything i had wished acid could have been. then i see acid 5 come out and not list a single new feature that i find useful. and that's after taking forever to release it. I don't think that'll happen with T2, but i'm not waiting around to find out.
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
I'm with the group who doesn't mind waiting. I bought Tracktion because it did everything I needed it to do(and more). And it did it easier than any other host for me.
Nothing in the above statements has changed. So why should my sequencer? It's like those people who have to get every new synth they come across. "I got synth 1A2B3C because it was so easy to use and sounds great!" Then the next week, "I bought 2TG68I because it was easy to use and sounds great!" And it keeps going and going. You never really get good with what you are using. Or maybe you didn't buy it for the reason you said. Alot of people here who say they are jumping ship jumped on board in the first place for some reason. So what has changed? Either you just have to have the latest and greatest(however that is measured) or you aren't really trying to see that Tracktion is everything you bought it for. And if you bought it thinking it was something else, shame on you. There's a demo for that ya know.
So I'm here. Tell me the price for T2 and I'll pay it now. If nothing else than just to support Jules. I don't even care if anything is addded. I'm content right now.
Koolkeys
Nothing in the above statements has changed. So why should my sequencer? It's like those people who have to get every new synth they come across. "I got synth 1A2B3C because it was so easy to use and sounds great!" Then the next week, "I bought 2TG68I because it was easy to use and sounds great!" And it keeps going and going. You never really get good with what you are using. Or maybe you didn't buy it for the reason you said. Alot of people here who say they are jumping ship jumped on board in the first place for some reason. So what has changed? Either you just have to have the latest and greatest(however that is measured) or you aren't really trying to see that Tracktion is everything you bought it for. And if you bought it thinking it was something else, shame on you. There's a demo for that ya know.
So I'm here. Tell me the price for T2 and I'll pay it now. If nothing else than just to support Jules. I don't even care if anything is addded. I'm content right now.
Koolkeys
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
Acid 5 is better than 4 because it's now a rewire client, so you can rewire it to Tracktion to take care of timestretching as T is currently not very good at that.
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"
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- KVRist
- 90 posts since 6 Jun, 2004 from New Hampshire, USA
That's fair. But I can't see spending the money on acid for the time streching alone. I don't really time stretch anyway. I hope my post above didn't sound like I don't support T2. I'm as anxious as anybody. I'm just saying that I don't have anything that T1 can't handle. And to wait that long for acid just to be a rewire client, that seems like too long for too little. I look at the new features in ableton, cubase and cakewalk and I don't see Acid adding much, comparitively. I write rock and indie music though, and that is not Acid's strongest suit.
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nuisance sonore nuisance sonore https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=40314
- KVRian
- 1088 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from 45° 31' 60N 73° 28' 60W
Mmmm, Leslie seems to have made a 180 pretty darn fast.
http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ht=#698568
http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ht=#698568
Quote of the day: "If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."--Elbert Hubbard 1856-1915
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- KVRAF
- 25031 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Leslie wrote:Enough is enough...
Imo it's hard to crititicize him for than...
Also I think it's important to give Mackie a feedback about the negative effect their policy has to the 'moral' of at least some of their customers...
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nuisance sonore nuisance sonore https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=40314
- KVRian
- 1088 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from 45° 31' 60N 73° 28' 60W
Well, I've just got 2 new Tracktion license....for free 
Mackie policy is pretty good on my moral right now
Mackie policy is pretty good on my moral right now
Quote of the day: "If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."--Elbert Hubbard 1856-1915
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- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 2 Dec, 2003
I saw a couple of new features that would be useful like vst support (of course I had already bought a wrapper), reversing of audio clips, and rewire... but asking $150 for the upgrade is ridiculous.paul_is_dead wrote:i cut my teeth on acid 3. i don't see how acid 5 is any better than 4. i see tracktion as everything i had wished acid could have been. then i see acid 5 come out and not list a single new feature that i find useful. and that's after taking forever to release it. I don't think that'll happen with T2, but i'm not waiting around to find out.
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
I've migrated to another host (Live 4) AND i'm still waiting for T2. That's partly because I see Live 4 partly playing a different role in my music making process. Plus, I think Tracktion is the BEST program for my stduents to start on - it is easy to get the hang of and cheap enough for them to afford their own copy at home.
Also, without a Freeze function Live requires continuing bouncing down of tracks, which is a bore.
I think that when T2 comes out though I will be comparing it with Sonar before jumping at either. Sonar seems to have a lot going for it now...
Also, without a Freeze function Live requires continuing bouncing down of tracks, which is a bore.
I think that when T2 comes out though I will be comparing it with Sonar before jumping at either. Sonar seems to have a lot going for it now...
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
well,
i have cubase le (came free with firepod), so i kinda know what cubase is like but still turn to T when doing music .
although i miss loop recording and folder tracks.
i have cubase le (came free with firepod), so i kinda know what cubase is like but still turn to T when doing music .
although i miss loop recording and folder tracks.
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- KVRer
- 26 posts since 1 Feb, 2004 from New Zealand
I am eagerly anticipating the improved piano roll in T2.
Mainly because I enter most of my music in step time with the mouse (I'm not so good on the ivories...).
The Piano Roll in T1 is nowhere near as good as other piano rolls (e.g. FL Studio, Reason), but the overall workflow in Tracktion is so good, the improved piano roll is worth waiting for...
Mainly because I enter most of my music in step time with the mouse (I'm not so good on the ivories...).
The Piano Roll in T1 is nowhere near as good as other piano rolls (e.g. FL Studio, Reason), but the overall workflow in Tracktion is so good, the improved piano roll is worth waiting for...
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- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
I switched to a used copy of Sonar but am still waiting on T2, I'll see how it is when it's released. And what the upgrade price is. Either it comes out before I get my head totally around Sonar (and I'll happily switch back) or I'll stick with Sonar if I become more comfortable with it. I'd rather have Tracktion though, since it's way easier to know what is going on and on what tracks etc. I hate the way Sonar works for this one reason. That's my favorite thing about Tracktion, I always know what input and VST is on what track etc. Sonar is just retarded in this respect.
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
give me:
folder tracks
ghost clips
clip based automation
lockable clips (treat a group of clips as one)
improved piano roll
step recording of automation events
MIDI controllable VST automation
elminate added latency with racks
and I'll be totally happy with T2 as a valid upgrade
add:
decent time stretching
improved project page
duplicate midi inputs
the ability to collapse window regions
template songs
and I'll be in hog heaven.
folder tracks
ghost clips
clip based automation
lockable clips (treat a group of clips as one)
improved piano roll
step recording of automation events
MIDI controllable VST automation
elminate added latency with racks
and I'll be totally happy with T2 as a valid upgrade
add:
decent time stretching
improved project page
duplicate midi inputs
the ability to collapse window regions
template songs
and I'll be in hog heaven.
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 2 Dec, 2003
yeah, template songs would be awsome...valley wrote:give me:
folder tracks
ghost clips
clip based automation
lockable clips (treat a group of clips as one)
improved piano roll
step recording of automation events
MIDI controllable VST automation
elminate added latency with racks
and I'll be totally happy with T2 as a valid upgrade
add:
decent time stretching
improved project page
duplicate midi inputs
the ability to collapse window regions
template songs
and I'll be in hog heaven.
