Delay plugins that can load 3rd party plugins?

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KVRian

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1051 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Post Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:48 pm

That dub delay technique unfortunately doesn't seem possible in Maschine. Good tip though.

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Beware the Quoth
29659 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:42 am

Lotuz2019 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:48 pm
That dub delay technique unfortunately doesn't seem possible in Maschine. Good tip though.
try seeing if you can do the feedback via NuGen SigMod.

https://nugenaudio.com/sigmod/
successfully and consistently snarky

AKJ
KVRAF
1908 posts since 2 Mar, 2004

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:52 am

Melda MXXX can load all Melda fx modules - but it might be kind of an overkill (also price-wise). Other than that, maybe, DDMF Metaplugin might serve you.

KVRAF
21092 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:10 am

Tj Shredder wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:49 pm
jens wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:36 am
Grodada wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:06 am
yes, voltage modular does that.
Voltage Modular is in no way a delay plugin. It is a modular host that can load 3rd party plugins (including delays, of course) - just like VCV, Reason, Magma and others...
Well, in a way it is, but you have to patch it together, certainly more than no way… And much more than any fixed plugin could possibly be…
Sorry but that is nonsense. A modular host is not or is a delay plugin just as much as it is a compressor, a reverb an EQ - or whatever else or any mixture of those. It's not what the OP asked for. And even if that would suit his needs, it is pretty disingenious to arbitrarily mention just one out of the many modular hosts there are without a word about a) that it is a modular host, not a delay plugin and b) that there are numerous other modular hosts, several of whichg - unlike VM can load VST plugins - reeks of fanboyism.

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KVRAF
5838 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:23 am

Well, it can solve the problem. That is what counts…
Btw. I am much more a fanboy of Bitwig, but that would not solve the OPs problem…

KVRAF
21092 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:31 am

It wasn't you who first suggested it after all... and of course you're right in a way.... there might have been a reply like this:

"while not being a delay-plugin in and of itself, a modular host does pretty much offer the functionality you look for.
You can load a delay, plus you can load a myriad of other modules and connect them in various ways. You also can save patches that can serve as pre-configurations. There are a number of modular hosts that can serve 3rd party plugins. Some of them load VST plugins directly, while others load their own proprietary plugin format. And while Cherry Audio Voltage Modular belongs to the latter category, I prefer it for... [this and that reason]."

But that was in no way what he/she wrote - instead it was just a single simple line:

"yes, voltage modular does that. "

See the difference?

KVRian

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1051 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:04 am

I appreciate all the suggestions, but yes, I'm looking for a delay plugin that I can give colour and character by adding the plugins I already own. Especially in the feedback loop, because that makes the repeats come alive. An entry level Late Replies perhaps?

KVRist
231 posts since 27 Apr, 2018

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:38 am

Lotuz2019 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:41 am
That is a cool feature, but I make all my beats in the Maschine standalone. Maybe if they'd let you load Bitwig as a plugin like FL Studio or Reason...
Just wanted to list, which DAWs could do it, but just saw, that you are limited to Maschine.
Can't you just route two tracks into each other in a loop with a simple delay in the first and the colorization in the secon one on Maschine? It's not the most convenient solution, but it works.

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KVRAF
11059 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:52 am

AKJ wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:52 am
Melda MXXX can load all Melda fx modules - but it might be kind of an overkill (also price-wise). Other than that, maybe, DDMF Metaplugin might serve you.
I think you can buy MXXX Core which can use all the free Melda plugins and then just buy whatever of his plugins that suit you and they become available in MXXX.
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KVRian

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1051 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:55 am

SamDi wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:38 am
Lotuz2019 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:41 am
That is a cool feature, but I make all my beats in the Maschine standalone. Maybe if they'd let you load Bitwig as a plugin like FL Studio or Reason...
Just wanted to list, which DAWs could do it, but just saw, that you are limited to Maschine.
Can't you just route two tracks into each other in a loop with a simple delay in the first and the colorization in the secon one on Maschine? It's not the most convenient solution, but it works.
No, it doesn't seem possible. I guess the developers of Maschine limited the routing to prevent feedback.

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addled muppet weed
80577 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:02 am

Lotuz2019 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:55 am
SamDi wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:38 am
Lotuz2019 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:41 am
That is a cool feature, but I make all my beats in the Maschine standalone. Maybe if they'd let you load Bitwig as a plugin like FL Studio or Reason...
Just wanted to list, which DAWs could do it, but just saw, that you are limited to Maschine.
Can't you just route two tracks into each other in a loop with a simple delay in the first and the colorization in the secon one on Maschine? It's not the most convenient solution, but it works.
No, it doesn't seem possible. I guess the developers of Maschine limited the routing to prevent feedback.
bidule mentioned on the previous page.
it is (before jens chases me down to murder me to death) a modular host as oppose to a delay, but! can be used as a plugin also.

KVRAF
21092 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:38 am

:lol:

Nah, you're safe... (for now) :hihi:

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addled muppet weed
80577 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:41 am

:hihi:

KVRist
36 posts since 1 Aug, 2009

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:34 am

What's wrong with Late Replies?

Note that once you have it set up there's an "easy view" (labelled EZ) you can turn on that gets rid of all the clutter and just let you adjust delay time, feedback and a couple of other key controls. It makes it much easier, but you do have to go to the main screen to get at the hosted plugins.

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KVRist
277 posts since 2 May, 2015

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:36 am

zerocrossing wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:52 am
AKJ wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:52 am
Melda MXXX can load all Melda fx modules - but it might be kind of an overkill (also price-wise). Other than that, maybe, DDMF Metaplugin might serve you.
I think you can buy MXXX Core which can use all the free Melda plugins and then just buy whatever of his plugins that suit you and they become available in MXXX.
The Melda Free Bundle does not work in MXXXCore
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MXXXCore

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