My first ever multi-track recording!!! /// Year: 1987 /// Track: 'Mystic Sea'

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KVRian
503 posts since 23 Apr, 2017 from Eastern US

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:38 am

I can’t access it on the app.
Edit: listened.
Which Home keyboard model did you use? It sounds like Technics or something but not too sure.
Many paid and free VSTs as well as Kontakt libraries. As well as HW synths/drum machine and acoustic instruments.

KVRAF
2149 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from near Los Angeles

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:01 pm

ChameleonMusic,
Thank you for the reviews! Now your song: sounds surprisingly good for a 4 track cassette recorder. I used an Aria 4 track cassette recorder from 1984 until 1996; it had no EQ adjustment. The song itself is quite good. Vocals are quite good; perhaps slightly pitchy a few times. No pitch correction in the olden days. Instrumentally, mostly sounds 80's, which is fine by me. Nice keyboard playing/sequencing. Overall, very good, especially considering the gear used.
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KVRian

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1308 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:13 am

VCA-089 wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:48 am
This is such a relic! It has an early Tears For Fears vibe to it. With a proper mixing and editing it could be a great debut single...
Thanks for the listen and feedback - much appreciated!

Tears For Fears - hadn't thought of them, but yeah, I can hear that a little bit...compare me to that class act anytime! :)

Sadly, a little late for a debut single! :oops: :help: :ud: :lol:
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

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addled muppet weed
83751 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:16 am

noob!

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Boss Lovin' DR
8917 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:32 am

I think we're probably of a similar age given the dates in your post - them were the days.. :scared:

Bouncing down to get the extra 3 tracks and worrying that you'd f**k it up, seeing your TDK SA90 chew up your masterpiece.. :cry: , buying shitloads of isopropyl alcohol and cotton buds to clean the bastard machine. These bleedin' kids have it easy these days. :x

Anyways, song was definitely better recorded than the stuff we used to do with our band 4-track (I think we were drinking the isopropyl..) and quite a catchy little number!

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KVRAF
5712 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:04 pm

Taylor Bros were the original and only emo-synthpop-prog band. :ud:

Given the limitations of recording onto a 4 track in one day, the recording is nothing short of amazing. Your musical aptitude is already on full display and your brother is a very good singer. (A minor point but I think the song would be more enjoyable with less repetition of the chorus.)

I do like this song better than most songs from that bigger band with a lot of Taylors (John, Andy, Roger) operating in the same time period. Great job! :)

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KVRian

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1308 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:52 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:34 am
Absolutely had to listen to this one. Goes to show how far you've come. Musically, it's excellent. Recording is obviously flawed but still a lot better than my early recordings where the only thing I knew how to do was pin the meter. LOL.
Thanks for the listen Wags!

The tension getting the damn thing backed up to digital...Just had no idea what state that cassette was in when I found it!

Just found a whole load more as well - i will archive them, but I don't think they're gonna go 'public'! :)
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

https://www.chameleonmusic.co.uk/

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KVRian

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1308 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:57 pm

markkuja wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:35 pm
Good song and recording. Sounds nice
I never got as good recording as you with my tascam porta 2.
Thanks for the listen and feedback!

Always appreciated!

When I taught music / music tech, we had a module on the history of recording equipment...always entertaining seeing students trying to put together a song on a 4-track tape machine! :)
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

https://www.chameleonmusic.co.uk/

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KVRian

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1308 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:01 pm

tomtom1 wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:17 am
that is some nice oldschool music.
and your brother has a really good voice. a really nice natural voice. you could really have made a lot of it. did he pursue that way (the music) or did he do something completely different?
Thanks Thomas!

Nick's been a school caretaker / site supervisor for a long time now. His interest in active music had really gone by the time he was 30...shame as he was a gifted clarinet player; a technically better pianist than me (I performed this one as he didn't like playing to a click track / drum beat) and, as you say, a decent singer.
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https://www.chameleonmusic.co.uk/

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KVRian

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1308 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:08 am

Music Bird wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:38 am
I can’t access it on the app.
Edit: listened.
Which Home keyboard model did you use? It sounds like Technics or something but not too sure.
Thanks for having a listen!

Keyboard used... Maaan, it was 1987 and we had it for just one day... Really can't remember. I think it was a Yamaha model, but I may be wrong so many years later! Definitely had a basic built in sequencing / recording function... 4 tracks... Might've been 6?
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

https://www.chameleonmusic.co.uk/

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KVRian

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1308 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:12 am

aaron aardvark wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:01 pm
ChameleonMusic,
Thank you for the reviews! Now your song: sounds surprisingly good for a 4 track cassette recorder. I used an Aria 4 track cassette recorder from 1984 until 1996; it had no EQ adjustment. The song itself is quite good. Vocals are quite good; perhaps slightly pitchy a few times. No pitch correction in the olden days. Instrumentally, mostly sounds 80's, which is fine by me. Nice keyboard playing/sequencing. Overall, very good, especially considering the gear used.
Thanks for the listen and feedback, Aaron!

Vocals a bit pitchy - definitely, especially at the extreme edges of the range, but I'll forgive him... Done in just two takes according to my scribbled notes on the cassette cover!
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

https://www.chameleonmusic.co.uk/

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KVRian

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1308 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:13 am

vurt wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:16 am
noob!
:band2: :band2: :band2: :band2: :band2: :band: :band: :band: :violin: :harp:
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

https://www.chameleonmusic.co.uk/

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KVRian

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1308 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:14 am

donkey tugger wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:32 am
I think we're probably of a similar age given the dates in your post - them were the days.. :scared:

Bouncing down to get the extra 3 tracks and worrying that you'd f**k it up, seeing your TDK SA90 chew up your masterpiece.. :cry: , buying shitloads of isopropyl alcohol and cotton buds to clean the bastard machine. These bleedin' kids have it easy these days. :x

Anyways, song was definitely better recorded than the stuff we used to do with our band 4-track (I think we were drinking the isopropyl..) and quite a catchy little number!
Maaaan, I'd totally forgotten about the 'cotton buds routine'! :)
These bleedin' kids have it easy these days.
There was an interesting documentary a few years ago putting some modern 'digital age' bands through old 4 track routines...interesting watch! :)

Thanks for the listen and reminders of some forgotten details! ;)
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

https://www.chameleonmusic.co.uk/

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KVRist
303 posts since 18 May, 2021

Post Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:27 am

Nice! Not bad at all especially for the gear you had and it being you first multitrack recording. Really like the opening guitar.

The dreaded low end always gets you when you're new.
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KVRAF
1630 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Post Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:03 pm

Well, that's great: 1987! :clap:

You can hear that the sound is not as clear and polished as it is today.
But it is also clear that this is actually not that important, because
this song has a beautiful melody and is arranged with a lot of love!
Do you have any more songs from that time? If so: bring it on! 8)
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