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Boss Lovin' DR

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8562 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:37 pm

vurt wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:07 am

always love a bit of mbv widdle.
I cheated of course - hate playing with the tremolo arm, there's enough shit to get wrong without that as well. Used the FL peak controller (envelope thingy) to control the whammy effect in geetar rig, so there's wobble tied to the strumming.. :love:

One is quite techy for an old sausage-fingered guitarist.

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KVRAF
10391 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:49 pm

As usual, you have put together a great song here, but I think the vocal level before 1:50 is a little too low. Maybe they could come up by a couple of dB.

Good work :)

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Boss Lovin' DR

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8562 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:38 pm

seismic1 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:49 pm
As usual, you have put together a great song here, but I think the vocal level before 1:50 is a little too low. Maybe they could come up by a couple of dB.

Good work :)
I was thinking about those bits and how I could make them a bit different (without something too obvious like distortion or telephone eq) so I've gone a bit of a Lennon stylee slapback delay, and upped them a bit. Quite like it.

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KVRist
291 posts since 18 May, 2021

Post Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:44 am

I enjoyed that very much.
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KVRAF
10391 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Post Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:06 pm

donkey tugger wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:38 pm
seismic1 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:49 pm
As usual, you have put together a great song here, but I think the vocal level before 1:50 is a little too low. Maybe they could come up by a couple of dB.

Good work :)
I was thinking about those bits and how I could make them a bit different (without something too obvious like distortion or telephone eq) so I've gone a bit of a Lennon stylee slapback delay, and upped them a bit. Quite like it.
So do I. They are more distinct/distinguished now :)

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Boss Lovin' DR

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8562 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:06 pm

eassae wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:44 am
I enjoyed that very much.
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it!

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Boss Lovin' DR

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8562 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:08 pm

seismic1 wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:06 pm
donkey tugger wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:38 pm
seismic1 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:49 pm
As usual, you have put together a great song here, but I think the vocal level before 1:50 is a little too low. Maybe they could come up by a couple of dB.

Good work :)
I was thinking about those bits and how I could make them a bit different (without something too obvious like distortion or telephone eq) so I've gone a bit of a Lennon stylee slapback delay, and upped them a bit. Quite like it.
So do I. They are more distinct/distinguished now :)
Thanks for checking, appreciated, I'm always a bit crap on getting vocal levels right first time. Think I'll stop tinkering now for a bit!

KVRAF
1583 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Post Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:32 pm

donkey tugger wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:28 pm
One of me more rambling 'pseudo-epic attempt' numbers (well..it's 5 minutes long anyway).
Game of about 5 halves with no real verses/chorus to speak of and quite minimal vocals. Some jaath-y chords at the start, 60s organ, bombast drums in the second half, wibble guitar in the faux MBV stylee, solo x2 (the second one is the first one chopped up and reversed, but f**k it, I'm 'avin it), and the kitchen sink...

http://www.bennyleeds7.myfreeola.uk/don ... iculty.mp3
Slowly starting epic song with slightly psychedelic vocals. That reminds me
of the great works of the 1970s. Very nicely done, perhaps a bit like Peter
Gabriel. The song is very soulful and well produced - I really enjoyed
listening to it! :clap:
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KVRist
95 posts since 26 Jun, 2018

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:12 am

Listening for this for a week. Great song to end a busy day!

I like the contrast of mellow 70's rock building into high-energy middle section with that "grungy" feeling.

Great instrument selection. A whole universe of sounds to explore. The strings feels "alive" and very expressive, blended with synthesizers it is such a cool idea. The guitars goes from clean to screaming distortion. It is hard to imagine such aestheticly different instruments in one arrangement.

Also great vocals. The voice timbre fits the song's vibe.

It is hard to find such detailed and carefully crafted kind of music nowdays...
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Boss Lovin' DR

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8562 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:48 am

enroe wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:32 pm
donkey tugger wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:28 pm
One of me more rambling 'pseudo-epic attempt' numbers (well..it's 5 minutes long anyway).
Game of about 5 halves with no real verses/chorus to speak of and quite minimal vocals. Some jaath-y chords at the start, 60s organ, bombast drums in the second half, wibble guitar in the faux MBV stylee, solo x2 (the second one is the first one chopped up and reversed, but f**k it, I'm 'avin it), and the kitchen sink...

http://www.bennyleeds7.myfreeola.uk/don ... iculty.mp3
Slowly starting epic song with slightly psychedelic vocals. That reminds me
of the great works of the 1970s. Very nicely done, perhaps a bit like Peter
Gabriel. The song is very soulful and well produced - I really enjoyed
listening to it! :clap:
Cheers. Seem to go through phases. Appear to be in a 1970s one now!

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Boss Lovin' DR

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8562 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:49 am

VCA-089 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:12 am
Listening for this for a week. Great song to end a busy day!

I like the contrast of mellow 70's rock building into high-energy middle section with that "grungy" feeling.

Great instrument selection. A whole universe of sounds to explore. The strings feels "alive" and very expressive, blended with synthesizers it is such a cool idea. The guitars goes from clean to screaming distortion. It is hard to imagine such aestheticly different instruments in one arrangement.

Also great vocals. The voice timbre fits the song's vibe.

It is hard to find such detailed and carefully crafted kind of music nowdays...
:oops: Cheered me up no end. Very kind!

KVRAF
4502 posts since 21 Sep, 2005

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:09 am

Well, I wasn't expecting that!

And just as I got a handle on it, I wasn't expecting that either!

Again, you start off, kind of Brendan Perry, but you change in to Mark Hollis. Nice.

I love this kind of music.

So I'm going to be hyper-critical here. I think your best work has not been shown. Maybe not even created yet. Why do I get the feeling you are holding out on us?

This was a perfectly fine song. Excellent even. But I get the sense you are capable of a whole lot more. I imagine if I listened to your entire back catalogue then I would find something there. But I also get the impression that your best work is yet to come. That's a good place to be. A good impression to make.

This was a very moody track. I like that. And while the voice is more Brendan Perry (Dead Can Dance), the song is very much later era Talk Talk as in Spirit of Eden. The music as well. "Oceanic" was it they labeled it as? Whatevs, let's not get in to labels.

Your production is first rate. Your voice is excellent. I'd like to hear something though where you really hit the mark.

A bit more.

Spirit of Eden was an indulgent exercise in many ways for Talk Talk. Mark Hollis had done everything he wanted to do and hit every mark he wanted to achieve by that point. And I find a lot of it, he doesn't hit the mark either. But it's not about hitting the mark, as such.

In that regard, you have achieved something very similar. I get it that you aren't trying or pandering and just letting it all out. In that, you have very much hit the mark.

Awesome work of the highest calibre.

On second listen, it reminds me of the single off of Spirit of Eden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSg2OIFum3o

I don't think there can be any higher praise than that.

Still, you can do better.

Back to the woodshed, young man!

KVRAF
4502 posts since 21 Sep, 2005

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:13 am

Just in case you are wondering where I get these Brendan Perry references from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8mNYVPoEa4

I can see you doing a track like that.

This track hits the mark.

I'm providing critique here. You don't need to stop doing that voodoo that you do so well.

More writing, more recording. More sharing what you come up with.

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Boss Lovin' DR

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8562 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:30 pm

codec_spurt wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:13 am
Just in case you are wondering where I get these Brendan Perry references from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8mNYVPoEa4

I can see you doing a track like that.

This track hits the mark.

I'm providing critique here. You don't need to stop doing that voodoo that you do so well.

More writing, more recording. More sharing what you come up with.
'Voyage Of Bran' eh? I always like to hear a nice number about the passage of a good, firm stool. :o

Cheers as ever for the words. I shall continue on - who knows with what next....

KVRAF
4502 posts since 21 Sep, 2005

Post Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:30 pm

donkey tugger wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:30 pm
I always like to hear a nice number about the passage of a good, firm stool. :o
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