Expressive E Imagine, physical modeling synth plugin in collaboration with AAS

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KVRist
172 posts since 17 Oct, 2005 from Edmond

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:44 am

Expressive E might get greater uptick on their software if they offered demo/trial versions. Just a thought. 😉
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KVRAF
2394 posts since 13 Jun, 2014

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:52 am

Who got on the express bandwagon?
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KVRist
172 posts since 17 Oct, 2005 from Edmond

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:05 am

Not I, as I’ve got Chromaphone and this just appears to be an updated GUI with a few different/more bells and whistles.
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KVRAF
8015 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:33 am

I bought it as I have Touché and it is great in Lie with all the pre-sets mapped.

I also have AAS and AAS again in Live Suite, but it's basilcay the cost of a couple of pre-set packs (which you Also cant demo normally!) so I am OK with it with just buying it (it was £55 UK) and I am really enjoying it with the Touché.

I will probably sell AAS suite now as Chromaphone was the only one I used, so I may end making a few quid ;-)
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KVRist
137 posts since 27 Aug, 2009

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:48 am

AAS synths don't have a non retriggering mono mode when played legato. Is this the same or does it have a real legato?
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KVRist
448 posts since 8 Jan, 2012

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:37 pm

SLiC wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:33 am
I bought it as I have Touché and it is great in Lie with all the pre-sets mapped.

I also have AAS and AAS again in Live Suite, but it's basilcay the cost of a couple of pre-set packs (which you Also cant demo normally!) so I am OK with it with just buying it (it was £55 UK) and I am really enjoying it with the Touché.

I will probably sell AAS suite now as Chromaphone was the only one I used, so I may end making a few quid ;-)
Hi SLiC. I was just wondering about you saying you got it for £55. Was that because you got an extra discount for owning a Touché? Because their price of €83.40 seems to convert to about £70. Just wondering if there's a secret discount code or something that I'm not privy to? Cheers.

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KVRAF
11254 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:41 pm

SLiC wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:00 am
pdxindy wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:37 am
trackbout wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:07 pm
They keep making synths that I assume MUST be MPE, but are confusingly not. Still, looks and sounds awesome. Hopefully MPE is on the road map.
Was shocked that Noisy wasn't MPE. Not unexpected this time.
Well, they don't have an MPE Controller yet, but it is very expressive and plays out of the box with the Touché which they do have! I cant imagen they wont have these fully set up for the Osmose with special pre-sets using all of the Osmoses unique MPE expression (like MPE Arp) when it finally arrives!

(I hope so anyway as I have both, but until then the Touché makes these worth having)
Yeah, the way the language is on their marketing, it seems like this one might be MPE compatible, but oddly isn't. I asked them about MPE compatibility with Noisy, and they said they were working on it... must be slow going. :?
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KVRAF
3740 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:01 pm

Expressive E sez they themselves can't Imagine MPE because AAS would need to do it (and their instruments have no MPE).
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KVRian
1022 posts since 9 Feb, 2007 from San Ramon, California

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:48 pm

My one gripe with Chromaphone is the GUI is difficult to read. I just grabbed the manual for Imagine and it looks like the GUI is resizable. Is anyone able to let me know if the text resizes along with the GUI? Some programs have resizable GUIs but not text. Some resize the fixed text on the GUI but not the browser.

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KVRist
40 posts since 15 Nov, 2018

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:21 pm

Chromaphone and all their other plugins are resizable (including text)...

KVRian
1022 posts since 9 Feb, 2007 from San Ramon, California

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:04 pm

Hmm…
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KVRAF
8015 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:27 pm

Michael L wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:01 pm
Expressive E sez they themselves can't Imagine MPE because AAS would need to do it (and their instruments have no MPE).
I wonder what their excuse is for not making Noisy MPE?
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KVRAF
32767 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:59 pm

Michael L wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:01 pm
Expressive E sez they themselves can't Imagine MPE because AAS would need to do it (and their instruments have no MPE).
OK, but their sales pitch was:

'It has been a real pleasure to collaborate with Expressive E in the creation of Imagine. At the forefront of a new generation of controllers that provide multidimensional expression, their expertise proved to be a perfect match for our physical modeling technology. Clearly the best of both worlds.'

So Expressive E were supposed to be providing the expression knowhow, and AAS the physical modelling expertise. I would have thought the whole point of that would be to overcome the limitations AAS synths have in that respect, not still be constrained by them.

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KVRAF
3740 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Post Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:19 am

aMUSEd wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:59 pm
I would have thought
and entire threads have been similarly devoted to speculating why AAS does not do the obvious.
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KVRian
1377 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:32 am

Need a demo to try or no buy.

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