Plogue OPS7 (bit-accurate DX7 emulation!)

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KVRAF
6131 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:51 am

Not sure if anyone else mentioned this site yet?
https://www.thisdx7cartdoesnotexist.com/

"The Yamaha DX7 is a classic synthesizer often cited as the sound of the 80's, this site uses a specially trained AI to create completely novel preset cartridges."

db3
KVRAF
2648 posts since 22 Aug, 2012

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 am

olepro wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:46 am
Or you could listen to this album with Howard Jones
There is DX7 all over it, and a great way to judge the sounds in a musical context
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... TFB0brlav9
In an interview he said he used Pro-One, Juno 60, Jupiter 8 and Moog Prodigy. I think I separately read he used the DX7 just for some of the more punchy bass sounds.

Looking forward to the OPS7 demo.

KVRian
1347 posts since 8 Jan, 2003 from Edinburgh

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:23 pm

davidv@plogue wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:59 am
jbraner wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:53 am
It also doesn't save chan mix or the CC7 settings either. There may be others.
I'm still trying to work out if these are preset settings or global plugin settings.
Hmm it does here. The only case that I know where that can happen is if the standalone is used and you use its own save as default (which is independent). There are very little global plugin settings, only the sys paths are store in the registry.
That's strange - so these should save as "defaults" when OPS7 opens? Rather than preset settings?
I had to run through my presets and save each one - to get these.

Windows 10 x64
Reaper x64 6.36 (latest)

EDIT - these presets are made from imported syx files - I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
John Braner
http://www.soundclick.com/johnbraner
and all the major streaming/download sites.

KVRAF
1652 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:03 pm

db3 wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 am
olepro wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:46 am
Or you could listen to this album with Howard Jones
There is DX7 all over it, and a great way to judge the sounds in a musical context
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... TFB0brlav9
In an interview he said he used Pro-One, Juno 60, Jupiter 8 and Moog Prodigy. I think I separately read he used the DX7 just for some of the more punchy bass sounds.

Looking forward to the OPS7 demo.
Try to listen to "What is love"
Mostly DX7 as I can tell.
After just 30 seconds I spotted five DX7 sounds :)
___The Jepptunes___
"Accept All the Good"

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KVRist
80 posts since 25 Dec, 2010

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:19 pm


KVRAF
3461 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:54 pm

Am I correct in understanding that this doesn't have a filter? (Would check myself, but no demo.)
A well-behaved signature.

KVRist
301 posts since 18 Jul, 2021

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:56 pm

olepro wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:03 pm
db3 wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 am
olepro wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:46 am
Or you could listen to this album with Howard Jones
There is DX7 all over it, and a great way to judge the sounds in a musical context
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... TFB0brlav9
In an interview he said he used Pro-One, Juno 60, Jupiter 8 and Moog Prodigy. I think I separately read he used the DX7 just for some of the more punchy bass sounds.

Looking forward to the OPS7 demo.
Try to listen to "What is love"
Mostly DX7 as I can tell.
After just 30 seconds I spotted five DX7 sounds :)
there's indeed a lot of dx7 there. interview with rupert hine (producer) from 1984 in one of the now defunct mags of the day: http://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/human-evolution/4078

the mainstay of the album: two dx7s and a prophet t8, apparently. though rupert mentions a ppg in passing and i think a few of the sounds could be from one of those, such as the bell-like sound towards the beginning of what is love.
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KVRist
301 posts since 18 Jul, 2021

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:57 pm

JerGoertz wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:54 pm
Am I correct in understanding that this doesn't have a filter? (Would check myself, but no demo.)
no filters on 80s-era fm synths.

that's what yer operator envelopes and level settings are for.

KVRAF
3461 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:13 pm

gaggle of hermits wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:57 pm
JerGoertz wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:54 pm
Am I correct in understanding that this doesn't have a filter? (Would check myself, but no demo.)
no filters on 80s-era fm synths.

that's what yer operator envelopes and level settings are for.
Yep, I knew that. Just wasn't sure whether they extended the emulation like others have.
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KVRAF
2278 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:35 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:49 am
All is takes is a little bit of effort , but no :roll:
Short answer : no the dx is not for you
FTFY...

No DX for you :wink:
No auto tune and iLok free...

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KVRian
536 posts since 9 Apr, 2005 from Japan

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:04 pm

Examigan wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:51 am
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this site yet?
https://www.thisdx7cartdoesnotexist.com/
That's cool. I generated a bank and imported it into FM8. It actually came up with some decent presets.
Stormchild

KVRAF
1863 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:01 pm

crickey13 wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:03 am
Why won't you get Nexus or Avenger then? Seriously, if you don't intend to use softsynths to synthesize sounds of your own, why not just get a ROMpler? I bet they offer a lot of digital sounding patches, which will fit your needs.
To be more accurate here, VPS Avenger is a well-designed, very capable, complex synth, sadly poorly programmed performance- and stability-wise (also coming with an annoying protection), hence IMHO not an option for any needs.
davidv@plogue wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:37 am
Could be next week, worse case the week after. We are busy working out all reported bugs and issues first.
Thanks for your patience.
Great :) It is not because of the really fair price, but I bought like 50 synths already, and only using 5 of it. Don't need the 51th synth that might not fit my needs. But your synth looks indeed extremely interesting and sounds so good :lol:

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KVRian
531 posts since 27 Aug, 2020

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:12 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:01 pm
To be more accurate here, VPS Avenger is a well-designed, very capable, complex synth, sadly poorly programmed performance- and stability-wise (also coming with an annoying protection), hence IMHO not an option for any needs.
I specifically meant its wide array of presets that a synth layman can use when struggling with creating their own sounds.

KVRian
1347 posts since 8 Jan, 2003 from Edinburgh

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:04 am

I really like this synth!
I have dexed and Aurora - but I love the "double DX7" ie DX1 sounds.
I also use Rhythmic Robot "DX Keys" https://www.rhythmicrobot.com/product/dx-keys-deluxe for DX EP sounds.

I have the gigantic syx file for DX7 presets - but has anyone tried DX1 presets (not that I've found any yet) with OPS7? Does it work?
I haven't taken the time to learn how to program a DX - but I like to tinker with presets ;)
John Braner
http://www.soundclick.com/johnbraner
and all the major streaming/download sites.

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KVRAF
4753 posts since 25 Dec, 2004

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:54 pm

i've actually been holding out for 20 years or so on the FM synthesis. This is the first FM synth I've bought. It's obviously gonna take me a while to get my head around it, but it sounds better than any other FM synth i've messed around with. There's actually some character in the sound. I'm very impressed. The CPU tax is a tad high for my machine, but it's worth it. Yay FM dub sounds :D

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