Ableton Live 11.1 - Apple Silicon support public beta now available
- KVRAF
- 3888 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
I don't get the problem.
Can VST's be Native for m1? if not they need a bridge? if they are native they don't need a bridge?
I actually use few plugins: u.he, valhalla, NI, serum, pianoteq,
Can VST's be Native for m1? if not they need a bridge? if they are native they don't need a bridge?
I actually use few plugins: u.he, valhalla, NI, serum, pianoteq,
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
With Live 11.1 if you'd want to run a VST that doesn't have Apple Silicon native version you'd have to run Live in Rosetta2 mode. You can only use Live 11.1 with Apple Silicon versions of VSTs and all AUs.
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- KVRAF
- 6123 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Komplete Control is free is it not? The list of Mac VSTs that have no AU equivelant is pretty small.
The biggest issue with AU over VST is MIDI out from plug ins simply isn't really supported in AU outside of Logic. It's probably not an Apple trying to make you use Logic issue as much as a Logic is 28 years old with some awkward parts related to MIDI, and Apple has to tweak the AU spec to fit it issue.
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- KVRAF
- 6123 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Opening Live 10 for the first time in months, I'm sadly surprised at the control surface support.. ugh! the Slate Raven here takes up three slots for it's Mackie Control use. I forgot about this, those of us with a half dozen or more MIDI control surfaces or ones that hog multiple slots get to play the chopping block game. So I have to decide between devices...
I guess there's not a plethora of nerds like me with multiple control surfaces? because this is how it's always been in Live and still is. Not a deal killer, just annoying.
Oh and kudos to Ableton for the 3 month trial period on Live 11! That's fantastic! it should put me squarely in line with their annual winter sale!
I guess there's not a plethora of nerds like me with multiple control surfaces? because this is how it's always been in Live and still is. Not a deal killer, just annoying.
Oh and kudos to Ableton for the 3 month trial period on Live 11! That's fantastic! it should put me squarely in line with their annual winter sale!
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- KVRAF
- 1990 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
I think the MIDI editor is a vast, vast improvement. The fact that you can now collapse the header and have almost the entire window to edit makes me very happy. And that you can keep the various tool panels collapsed but still use the notes, expression, and note expression headers (or Opt + 1/2/3 if the header is collapsed) to switch modes is fantastic in my book.
I was going to give the M1 version a shot at work, but I'm out of authorizations and there was no demo mode that I could find. It was exceptionally quick closing!! LOL
I was going to give the M1 version a shot at work, but I'm out of authorizations and there was no demo mode that I could find. It was exceptionally quick closing!! LOL
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- KVRAF
- 1990 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
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- KVRAF
- 6123 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Ableton almost always do this, it makes up for the initial price of upgrades that they have really two or three upgrades per payment cycle, and that it's generally longer between upgrades these days than any other DAW besides Logic.jonljacobi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:38 pmIndeed. To me 11 seemed kind of unfinished in spots. 11.1 seems quite a bit more polished interface-wise.
- KVRist
- 179 posts since 17 Sep, 2019
massive x´s knobs don't work in the beta. In the latest normal version of live it doesn't have this problem. ... when using that plugin-configure button on the plugin in the bottom row it works.
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- KVRAF
- 11087 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Which version of massive x? There was an update today from NI that is supposed to fix issues with some DAWS.
X32 Desk, i9 PC, S49MK2, Studio One, BWS, Live+PUSH 3 Standalone, Reason, Osmose, Summit, Pro 3, Prophet8, Syntakt, Digitone, Drumlogue, OP1-F, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRian
- 513 posts since 4 Apr, 2006
thanks for the tip! I still absolutly hate that they just took that feature away when using the pen tool with no way to reactivate it. makes no sensejonljacobi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:45 amIt still does this when aren't using the pen and you double-click to enter a note. Not quite as easy, but easier than entering then reselecting and changing the velocity.
If you must use the pen, then keep your other hand on the number keys and type in the velocity as you enter notes. Maybe they feel that the typing is more precise than dragging. I liked the old way as well as you could always correct the note with the arrow keys.
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- KVRAF
- 1990 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
I finally got to test the M1 version and it uses less CPU playing back. However only 3 to 4% which is a lot less than I was hoping for. Boot time and disk operations seem much quicker, and it’s slightly snappier perhaps graphically but that’s about it.
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- KVRAF
- 4796 posts since 17 Aug, 2004
I am trying to understand Align Delay plugin. Is that their take and solution on the terrible implementation of MIDI sync with hardware sequencers? I mean where are we supposed to use that new plugin in what situation ?
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
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You mean 3-4% less CPU on the very same machine & same project, right?jonljacobi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:56 pm I finally got to test the M1 version and it uses less CPU playing back. However only 3 to 4% which is a lot less than I was hoping for. Boot time and disk operations seem much quicker, and it’s slightly snappier perhaps graphically but that’s about it.
Have you tried how Bitwig fares in similar comparison? I don't think I ever saw anyone compare the performance benefit of them doing the native M1 support...