Spectrasonics says they have big news coming next Tuesday (19th October)

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KVRAF
5130 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Post Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:10 pm

Did I expect this?.....Maybe a bit. I also hoped for something else but at the end it will sell like hot cake. From the walkthroughs I liked Undercurrent and the Nylon Sky.
The FX are nice but of course if you are in sound design of course you could do it yourself (and maybe in better quality with some third party tools) but they are like several FX chained with macros to tweak.
About the scenes....first i thought now they go the Alchemy way with Snapshots to morph between. Sadly its not quite as powerful.
But Spectrasonics are good at sound design and especially for film and TV these will all over the place soon....which also is a thing. I already hear a lot Omnisphere presets in productions and shows and even with 1000´s of them I can hear some of them.
So I think if you are into your own sound design it is maybe not the right thing but if you need ready in your face to impress presets with easy tweaking, this is a great thing.
I might even buy into these to have more sound sources to play with since I already own Omnisphere 2 and Keyscape. The easy micro tuning is something I appreciate which is missing f.e. in the Logic Alchemy version.
With discount you get each for about 100 then which is O.k. for what you get. These are a bit more than just presets.
If I had to choose one I guess it would be the Nylon Sky for me since I do not own any good guitar libraries. All the synth stuff is nice but normally I prefer to roll my own things here.
But when people were complaining about more synth features and stuff when they released Keyscape instead of new synthesis options, they said that there are way more Keyboard players out there as "synth players"....which I guess is very true, especially for their market. So they know what they do and they deliver what their clients want.

KVRAF
6627 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 pm

Is there a way to modulate the scene selection any way? I wonder if this is possible?
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KVRAF
3452 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Post Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:33 pm

Caine123 wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 pm
Is there a way to modulate the scene selection any way? I wonder if this is possible?
It doesn't seem so, but it would be an interesting update if they could be morphed.

In fact, NONE of the new front panel controls can be modulated. I guess they'd argue that they control all the actual parameters under the hood, and you can of course modulate them. Which in turn suggests another feature - if you (say) shift click a knob or control it would useful to have a pop up of what parameters they are controlling.
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KVRAF
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Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:18 am

noiseboyuk wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:33 pm
Caine123 wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 pm
Is there a way to modulate the scene selection any way? I wonder if this is possible?
It doesn't seem so, but it would be an interesting update if they could be morphed.

In fact, NONE of the new front panel controls can be modulated. I guess they'd argue that they control all the actual parameters under the hood, and you can of course modulate them. Which in turn suggests another feature - if you (say) shift click a knob or control it would useful to have a pop up of what parameters they are controlling.
thx a lot! well i need to wait till i get paid lol ahhhh wanna get them.
but this is a bummer, i mean i need to test if it works in Falcon or not, Falcon is powerful but i just dont like the heavily tree clicking (just a taste i guess) so i like the idea of omnisphere (hope they implement custom macros in future!) and prefer Omnisphere mostly. not modulating those parameters is not logic for me, but im no programmer

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but automating is possible via daw? thx :)!
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KVRAF
32945 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:33 am

So the extensions are more than just sound packs in that they also add new features and fx to Omnisphere (like some Tone 2 addons do). If that is the case, once one is installed are those new features and fx available throughout Omnisphere so you can use them in new sounds or to modify existing sounds that are not part of the extension?

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KVRAF
3597 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:37 am

There's a live Q&A today from the dev's of these extensions. 11am PST I Think.
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KVRAF
6627 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:41 am

aMUSEd wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:33 am
So the extensions are more than just sound packs in that they also add new features and fx to Omnisphere (like some Tone 2 addons do). If that is the case, once one is installed are those new features and fx available throughout Omnisphere so you can use them in new sounds or to modify existing sounds that are not part of the extension?
as far as i know hyes, maybe someone who has it can clarify?
also all patches are editable afaik. just need to click custom gui and the old gui opens up? so you can change per scene the soundsources, modulations etc?
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KVRian
1120 posts since 11 Sep, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:43 am

I think these are brilliant! They’re not cheap of course but they are premium and extremely high quality. I think the price is somewhat justified if you imagine the amount of work that must have gone into them.

I would imagine that COVID has hit all music-related organisations, Spectrasonics included, so you can’t blame them for moving things in a more commercially minded direction. Also, having received a staggering amount of free stuff via the stellar updates over the years, I don’t begrudge paying for these at all. I’ve grabbed them all except the Seismic Shock one.

These days I like stuff that helps me knock out tracks quickly and I think the sonic extensions line is a great concept for busy musicians and producers with deadlines to meet.

Anyway, every single one of them sounds freaking amazing. Downloading now and beyond excited to dig into this feast of sound and colour!

Spectrasonics forever!!!! LOL 😝

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KVRAF
32945 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:54 am

Caine123 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:41 am
aMUSEd wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:33 am
So the extensions are more than just sound packs in that they also add new features and fx to Omnisphere (like some Tone 2 addons do). If that is the case, once one is installed are those new features and fx available throughout Omnisphere so you can use them in new sounds or to modify existing sounds that are not part of the extension?
as far as i know hyes, maybe someone who has it can clarify?
also all patches are editable afaik. just need to click custom gui and the old gui opens up? so you can change per scene the soundsources, modulations etc?
That raises a few problems though, I guess for one would it mean if someone shared or sold sounds that included one of the new effects would they even open in Omnisphere for people who don't have that extension? Personally I am more interested in the new fx than the sounds because I feel the current Omnisphere fx are one of its weakest elements and was really hoping for an update to these, but it would be a concern now that we will see Omnisphere effects only being updated in future via Extensions.

KVRAF
8237 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:12 am

sazb30 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:43 am
Also, having received a staggering amount of free stuff via the stellar updates over the years, I don’t begrudge paying for these at all.
This- Since owning Omni I have had so much free stuff (that others would probably have charged for) its like a new program, I will have no problem picking one of these up at some point.
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KVRAF
9180 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:26 am

Nylon Sky is definitely extremely tempting. It sounds gorgeous!
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KVRAF
3452 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:40 am

Caine123 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:18 am
but automating is possible via daw? thx :)!
Yes - everything is the usual right click CC including those scenes.
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KVRAF
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Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:47 am

aMUSEd wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:54 am
Caine123 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:41 am
aMUSEd wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:33 am
So the extensions are more than just sound packs in that they also add new features and fx to Omnisphere (like some Tone 2 addons do). If that is the case, once one is installed are those new features and fx available throughout Omnisphere so you can use them in new sounds or to modify existing sounds that are not part of the extension?
as far as i know hyes, maybe someone who has it can clarify?
also all patches are editable afaik. just need to click custom gui and the old gui opens up? so you can change per scene the soundsources, modulations etc?
That raises a few problems though, I guess for one would it mean if someone shared or sold sounds that included one of the new effects would they even open in Omnisphere for people who don't have that extension? Personally I am more interested in the new fx than the sounds because I feel the current Omnisphere fx are one of its weakest elements and was really hoping for an update to these, but it would be a concern now that we will see Omnisphere effects only being updated in future via Extensions.
Responding to both these posts in one:

The fx (and all soundsources plus wavetables from Seismic Shock) are available in regular Omni - much like with Trilian or Keyscape that top left button lets you back in to the full synth. And of course you can then save as a new patch.

aMUSEd, yes I thought the same thing, but they've implemented it quite well. The wavetables and indeed FX are neatly hived off menu-wise in their own subfolder, so you can't make that mistake too easily. And it is much like Keyscape and Trilain again for the soundsources (and I know it's tripped up a few developers and me once!) Developers should just show the Core library not All Spectrasonics (plus user samples of course).
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KVRist
81 posts since 10 Sep, 2015

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:38 am

Hmm - That Nylon Sky is indeed very tempting. The $149 price point seems not too steep for me. However - I really hope this price includes VAT for us here in Europe, otherwise the price would become around $180. And that's a LOT less tempting.

KVRAF
1745 posts since 26 Aug, 2012

Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:40 am

Cinebient wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:10 pm

The FX are nice but of course if you are in sound design of course you could do it yourself (and maybe in better quality with some third party tools)
What 3rd party fx are you referring to?

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