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KVRAF
2698 posts since 25 Feb, 2005

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:17 pm

when you consider that each preset has 5 different sounding scenes you could almost say 10k presets.

KVRian
1342 posts since 2 Jun, 2003

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:34 pm

dblock wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:17 pm
when you consider that each preset has 5 different sounding scenes you could almost say 10k presets.
I'm pretty sure each one has 400-ish sounds. Times 5 scenes per sound it works out to 2000 per expansion. I could be wrong. I think the guitar has the fewest and the underscore has the most. But I don't own any yet so I'm not sure.
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KVRAF
2698 posts since 25 Feb, 2005

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:42 pm

Hewitt Huntwork wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:34 pm
dblock wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:17 pm
when you consider that each preset has 5 different sounding scenes you could almost say 10k presets.
I'm pretty sure each one has 400-ish sounds. Times 5 scenes per sound it works out to 2000 per expansion. I could be wrong. I think the guitar has the fewest and the underscore has the most. But I don't own any yet so I'm not sure.
Looks like you are right. I bought it but didn't examine it but On the website for "Undercurrent" for example, they show it as 1860 scenes,372 patches (which multiplied by 5 is 1860),350 sound sources, 7.1 gb. So Yeah.

Banned
393 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:54 pm

dblock wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:00 pm
hoxclab wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:06 am
Guys I'm on the verge of buying them all. It's taken me two days but I'm almost there.
I quick bought them all before I chickened out. I knew if I didn't get them now, I'd want them later. Might as well go for the 30% off discount.
How are you liking it so far? You think it was worth it? I’m thinking about all minus Seismic.

KVRAF
2698 posts since 25 Feb, 2005

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:03 pm

hoxclab wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:54 pm
dblock wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:00 pm
hoxclab wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:06 am
Guys I'm on the verge of buying them all. It's taken me two days but I'm almost there.
I quick bought them all before I chickened out. I knew if I didn't get them now, I'd want them later. Might as well go for the 30% off discount.
How are you liking it so far? You think it was worth it? I’m thinking about all minus Seismic.
Haven't had a chance to mess with it really. Finishing up a project. Having said that, I knew it would be worth it for what I do anyway just based on it's sound, it's Spectrasonics and right up my alley.

KVRist
265 posts since 14 Jun, 2018

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:31 pm

I still don't get the enormous fuzz about Omnisphere, but.... I love the presets Luftrum is creating for it.

KVRian
572 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:46 pm

I would expect spectrasonics to do much better job on Nylon Guitar
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393 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:08 pm

TS-12 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:46 pm
I would expect spectrasonics to do much better job on Nylon Guitar
Is it really bad?

KVRAF
3453 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:35 pm

hoxclab wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:08 pm
TS-12 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:46 pm
I would expect spectrasonics to do much better job on Nylon Guitar
Is it really bad?
It IS a little disappointing for me. But it has nevertheless got plenty going for it. The basic tone is lovely, the nv version plays nicely for chords and the expressivo will work well for more solo lines. So not REALLY bad, no.
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393 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:39 pm

noiseboyuk wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:35 pm
hoxclab wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:08 pm
TS-12 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:46 pm
I would expect spectrasonics to do much better job on Nylon Guitar
Is it really bad?
It IS a little disappointing for me. But it has nevertheless got plenty going for it. The basic tone is lovely, the nv version plays nicely for chords and the expressivo will work well for more solo lines. So not REALLY bad, no.
What's disappointing?

KVRAF
3453 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:07 pm

hoxclab wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:39 pm
What's disappointing?
The main expressivo patch has baked in vibrato that, when played as held chords, is very unrealistic. It's a really weird effect. Solution - don't use that patch for held chords, use the Clean (non-vibrato) instead. (also the softest velocities are okay, but it's hard to trigger those from my keyboard without playing super-artificially soft).

Another thing that doesn't feel quite right to me are the realism noises. They seem a little weighted towards clonks and bangs, and not enough for finger noises.

Finally, compared with (say) a comprehensive Kontakt library, there's not many articulations in the main patch. Short glisses and hammer-ons in the main patches - that's it. Some other patches have stuff like harmonics though.
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KVRist
158 posts since 22 Apr, 2019

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:29 pm

hoxclab wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:08 pm
TS-12 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:46 pm
I would expect spectrasonics to do much better job on Nylon Guitar
Is it really bad?
Nylon Sky guitars, effects and presets

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KVRAF
6629 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:05 pm

Besides nylon sky not being maybe that realistic. Does it have other nice presets like ambient sounds etc?
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KVRAF
3453 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Post Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:21 am

Caine123 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:05 pm
Besides nylon sky not being maybe that realistic. Does it have other nice presets like ambient sounds etc?
Yes! Absolutely. I just checked - about 40 patches are tagged "ambient", but that's probably an underestimate as some more scenes might be that way inclined (the tagging system only works by patch, not by individual scene, which is a bit limiting). And of course all those manual controls can drift into ambient, or (say) rhythmic, very easily. Actually some of the rhythmic patches are a really strong suit, especially as it drifts into conventionally unplayable territory, but still sounding organic. It's still a really nice, quality extension.

I guess I see the main guitar as really good fuel for fantastic patches, more than I see it as a standalone great instrument. This is the sense I'm disappointed - that's not true in Keyscape (though I've never been the greatest fan of the C7 tone, but that's just me) or Trilian. Equally I don't want to over-critisize - those core patches are pretty good, not terrible at all, and you can usually work round the deficiencies.
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KVRAF
6629 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:45 am

noiseboyuk wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:21 am
Caine123 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:05 pm
Besides nylon sky not being maybe that realistic. Does it have other nice presets like ambient sounds etc?
Yes! Absolutely. I just checked - about 40 patches are tagged "ambient", but that's probably an underestimate as some more scenes might be that way inclined (the tagging system only works by patch, not by individual scene, which is a bit limiting). And of course all those manual controls can drift into ambient, or (say) rhythmic, very easily. Actually some of the rhythmic patches are a really strong suit, especially as it drifts into conventionally unplayable territory, but still sounding organic. It's still a really nice, quality extension.

I guess I see the main guitar as really good fuel for fantastic patches, more than I see it as a standalone great instrument. This is the sense I'm disappointed - that's not true in Keyscape (though I've never been the greatest fan of the C7 tone, but that's just me) or Trilian. Equally I don't want to over-critisize - those core patches are pretty good, not terrible at all, and you can usually work round the deficiencies.
thx a lot! well im a sucker for spectrasonics products but also love when theyrelease still quality and it seems that way. i always find Kontakt so fiddly and small GUIwise. so if omnisphere really can release some deep sampling guitars etc. this would be great but i guess it wont be so deep like kontakt 6 (it got a different progress all these years) but i dont need hyper realistic scripting so it seems to fit.

especially to use a very nice instrument sounding like in keyscape the pianos combined with synthesis, ambience is top notch! so i will get Nylon Sky as well just for that :)!
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