Looking for a high quality vocoder that can transform voices completely

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KVRist
183 posts since 31 Aug, 2020

Post Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:14 am

I have spent very little time exploring vocoders as I don't need them usually. So I'm trying my way around vocoder to find something that can transform and mangle voices and make them sound like a robot from another dimension but not the old school way (no 8-bit 12-bit vintage crunchy something), I need modern formant, HD quality that almost sound like it's the original voice sound unprocessed. I like Ableton's vocoder but it's not effecty enough and it kills all the voice intelligibility when I try to get close to what I want (pulling down the BW at the minimum).
What do you guys recommend for this task ?
I just saw Razor can be used as a vocoder so I'll try this first.

KVRian
1190 posts since 9 Mar, 2008 from netherlands

Post Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:23 am

Waves O Vox
Izotope VocalSynth

Both are pretty good at mangling voices.

XILS 5000 is one of the best software vocoders around and is very good at understandable Daft Punk classic vocoder sounds but not a real mangler.

KVRAF
1652 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark

Post Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:38 am

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KVRist
103 posts since 17 Nov, 2012

Post Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:07 am

try the trial version. the results from the promotional videos are difficult to achieve.

KVRian
517 posts since 30 Oct, 2003 from Pacific NW, USA

Post Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:57 am

NI's Razor works wonders for vocoding and takes relatively little time to learn how to use effectively. It can create that vintage, rubbery-sounding vocoder as well as glassy or noisy. I've been using it for years because it seems to work with just about any genre I find myself working in.

iZotope's VocalSynth is another quick and easy to use plugin that can create some very iconic-sounding effects, both classic and modern.

I haven't tried Rob Papen's new RoCoder VST, but it does look like it has some new features not typically found in a vocoder and it's only $49 intro price.

If you're after a modern vocal sound overall, consider looking at Manipulator and I Wish by Polyverse Music. While not strictly vocoders per se, they allow for some very cool processing tricks that make vocal production a lot of fun. They also sound great on the other elements in a mix, but it's much more noticeable and in your face when you're processing vocals.

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KVRian
1197 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Post Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:50 pm

Really nice for free:
Full Bucket Vocoder FBVC. Based on the KORG VC-10
https://www.fullbucket.de/music/fbvc.html

Waldorf Lector is really smooth and intelligible with up to 100 frequency bands, and you can use an audio input for the carrier wave.
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Beware the Quoth
30016 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Post Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:26 am

olepro wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:38 am
Try this, it's really great!

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/vocodex-by-image-line
Yeah, but its not available as a plugin for other (non-FL) DAWs any more, IL stopped doing that.
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KVRAF
1652 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark

Post Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:08 am

Where did you get that information?
I can't find any info about it
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Beware the Quoth
30016 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Post Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:13 am

olepro wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:08 am
Where did you get that information?
I can't find any info about it
im sure there was a thread about it here, cant remember which one, but its come up several times since.

search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keyw ... st+stopped

also confirmed by IL on at least one other thread

viewtopic.php?p=8208615#p8208615

also, there's no product page for vocodex at https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio/plugins/, and the product pages that do exist for their other former VST plugins all say
VST plugin

ATTENTION: NO VST version sold at this time
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KVRist
50 posts since 15 Jun, 2018

Post Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:17 am

Other vocal manglers worth mentioning:

- Virta by Madrona Labs: https://madronalabs.com/products/virta

- Gorgon by Inear Display (free, but no longer updated): https://ineardisplay.com/plugins/legacy/

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KVRian
1055 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA

Post Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:17 am

Check out the new RoCoder from Rob Papen.

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KVRAF
2546 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Post Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:53 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:13 am
olepro wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:08 am
Where did you get that information?
I can't find any info about it
im sure there was a thread about it here, cant remember which one, but its come up several times since.

search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keyw ... st+stopped

also confirmed by IL on at least one other thread

viewtopic.php?p=8208615#p8208615

also, there's no product page for vocodex at https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio/plugins/, and the product pages that do exist for their other former VST plugins all say
VST plugin

ATTENTION: NO VST version sold at this time
It's available for £79.96 from Plugin Boutique.

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Beware the Quoth
30016 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Post Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:13 am

Spring Goose wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:53 am
It's available for £79.96 from Plugin Boutique.
So it is!

much weirdness...
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KVRAF
2546 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Post Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:06 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:13 am
Spring Goose wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:53 am
It's available for £79.96 from Plugin Boutique.
So it is!

much weirdness...
I have read that it is possible to register these. I have also read that Image Line have discontinued VST support. I don't know what to think about it. :) :tu:

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KVRian
1197 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Post Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:40 pm

When was the last time Vocodex was updated? 2017?

I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a discontinued / unsupported plugin!
I also wouldn't purchase any plugin that was either Windows or Mac only.
Cross-platform compatibility should always be a basic prerequisite, because as a musician you need to be able to collaborate with others.
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