Has anybody sorted through DX7 presets for the decent ones, for Dexed?

[DJErmac]

Yes, you won’t be able to get any decent FM sound from this synth, but this is what we all know you deserve : and this is what you get for your sins !!!

Time to repent brother !! Thou shall not underestimate the dominion of FM synthesis !!


Sorry, I thought this thread needed a WTF post to release the pressure.

[Teksonik]

because basically no-one programmed their own patches on the DX7.

Well that's not actually true based on my experience. Many people programmed their own patches in the early days of the DX7. Cosmo Watts and Bo Tomlyn are two that come to mind right off the bat.

We used to share our own patches at the music store I worked at long before the internet was a popular thing and trading patches on RAM carts was the way to go.

I had tons of patches in DX Droid format for the Atari ST. There were actually a lot of patches available back in those days.

I'm quite confident the "German Dude" bank was not a compilation but the work of one person who I have long forgotten but his bank has lived on in my memory.

Perhaps my memory of the contents of that bank is more nostalgia that anything and those patches wouldn't stand out that much these days but I have searched for it many times over the years so they have left a lasting impression on me.

[Teksonik]

I mean I can dump a filelist, but do you *really* want to scan through 118,000 patch files..?

Ehhh not really. I'd love to find that bank again if for nothing else to see if those patches really were worth looking for over the years but wading through that many patches to maybe find a 30 year old bank doesn't seem like a whole lot of fun.

[beely]

because basically no-one programmed their own patches on the DX7.

Well that's not actually true based on my experience. Many people programmed their own patches in the early days of the DX7. Cosmo Watts and Bo Tomlyn are two that come to mind right off the bat.

Of course I didn't mean *literally not one single person* - clearly there were professional programmers, and a few hobbyists and enthusiasts would tinker (witness the DX7 programming articles in my archive as an example). But as you no doubt know, the vast majority of regular musicians buying DX7's were not programming, and barely even tinkering, the DX series was notorious for this - hence why the DX7 basically gave birth to the third-party presets and commercial preset industries.

So when I say "basically no one", I really mean, 99.5% of DX7 owners weren't programming it at all, which as a shorthand for a quick forum response is reasonable.

I'm quite confident the "German Dude" bank was not a compilation but the work of one person who I have long forgotten but his bank has lived on in my memory.

I have no knowledge about it to add anything substantive, I was just offering some suggestions as to where/what/how to look should you want to scratch that itch - certainly there is no bank in the cart called "germandude" (bit of a weird title for a bank of your own patches, but heyho!).

It might forever remain a mystery...

[Teksonik]

So when I say "no one", I really mean, 99.5% of DX7 owners weren't programming it at all, which as a shorthand for a quick forum response is reasonable.

Again that was not my experience. Many people who bought a DX7 around here programmed their own patches. Maybe things were just different in Las Vegas.

It might forever remain a mystery..

Yes you're probably right. Many of those patches from the early days were lost before the internet became a common method of sharing.

Oh well it is what it is thanks anyway......

[beely]

No probs!

[gentleclockdivider]

I used to have a CX5M, when they first came out, did you?

Let's assume you we're 10 years old when you got your CX5m , so you must be around 50 years old .
Yet , here we are 40 years later and you're still asking what FM is capable of ?
Sorry , I can't compute that

[syntonica]

The patch storage format for the DX7 is quite simple. If I was enterprising, I'd make an application that would load in ALL the patches into a table, eliminate any exact duplicates (except the name) and then allow the user to filter and sort by different criteria and export banks of chosen patches. Set a delta such that any two patches that differ by a small amount would be considered the same and remove one, or take two patches and average them.

Eventually, you could winnow them all down to the bank or two of unique patches that surely exist.

[jancivil]

I only ever programmed DX7; there's very little in the ROMs that was that suitable for me. I wasn't the only one in the group to. The classes at the old Leuenberger Yamaha on Market st (ca 1985) were pretty well-attended.

Most of the ROM patches were Leuenberger afaict, who goes back to the GS-1 and the very development of the project. Now there's something *basically* no_one has.

I def wouldn't know about the vast majority of 'regular' anything tbf

[beely]

Most of the ROM patches were Leuenberger afaict, who goes back to the GS-1 and the very development of the project. Now there's something *basically* no_one has.

Indeed! There are a few GS1's around and apparently there is even a GS1 with the development system owned by a guy in LA - the development system was essentially a tool to program the sounds on the GS1 (this was also used to program the DX sounds for Toto, and apparently some of those sounds can't be replicated by the later DX7 stuff). There are images on Google, it's quite a cool looking thing. I know Manny Fernandes (another prominent DX voicing guy) is looking into trying to get hold of it.

Gary Leuenberger and Dave Bristow did the bulk of the original Yamaha voices, but there were also some other guys that did later cartridge banks...

[jancivil]

wow, you know more than most about this.
When I started with the Cartoon house, Brazieal had a GS-2. It sounded a little different than DX7, all presets. I did one or two things with it.

last time I saw Leuenberger I borrowed a copy of an old notation program called MusicWorks, not sure why anymore. Or why I believed he must have a copy. His son had a copy. weirdly, I was able to run it in like 2003, through some translation I guess.
I don't remember if I returned it or not
He remembered me from '85 because we were notoriously avant-garde. Fantastically great classes, I f'ing GOT it.

[AnX]

Maybe we at KVR could take a portion of the presets each and go through them, and save the decent ones...

Maybe you could do your own work, as your idea of decent is clearly different to everyone else

[carrieres]

Download this compilation :
http://black.winny.free.fr/MAO/Dexed/Dexed_cart_1.0.zip
and try the banks into AViC folder

[excuse me please]

Another option might be to try this online preset generator. The results will likely vary a lot but it might be a bit less samey.

https://www.thisdx7cartdoesnotexist.com/

Thanks for the link!

[BenfordLaw]

I used to have a CX5M, when they first came out, did you?

Let's assume you we're 10 years old when you got your CX5m , so you must be around 50 years old .
Yet , here we are 40 years later and you're still asking what FM is capable of ?
Sorry , I can't compute that

I don't remember EVER asking what FM is capable of. Can you show me where I did?