Arturia V8 Collection or Syntronik 2 Max?

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KVRian
903 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden

Post Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:16 am

Total Studio Max 3.5 is really good. Got it for €276 with Jampoints during the sale (plus 25% VAT because IKM).
Komplete 13 is also on sale and is pretty affordable if you have Kontakt (€226 + VAT for me).

But those are a bit different. V-Collection is a "pure" keyboard collection like Syntronik, but modelled instead of sampled. Even with the expanded control in Syntronik 2, it's still a ROMpler at heart, where as Arturia model every function of the original synth plus a few extras like additional envelopes, LFO's, FX etc.

Meester Smeeeth
KVRist
37 posts since 26 Jul, 2005

Post Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:35 am

Yeah, understood, but when you're working out what to get for your hard-earned cash, TSM is a great deal, whilst Syntronik 2? Not so much. :-)

Arturia V collection is also worth having even if you have TSM.

The IK B3 is modelled (as are MODO Bass and MODO Drum) and they're all excellent. I prefer the IK B3 to Arturia's. If I could have only one, I'd get TSM first, then AVC next time it's on sale :-)

Chrisk-K
KVRist
293 posts since 4 Jun, 2020 from USA

Post Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:41 am

Meester Smeeeth wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:05 am
Syntronik is actually one of the least compelling IK products IMO due to the amount of space it takes up, limited amount of edibility and relatively slow loading times compared to modelled synths.
The only two synths I'm using from Syntronik are JX and Taurus emulations. One of the reasons why I don't use it often is slow loading time on my M1 Mac. Other sample-based instruments, like the UVI Synth Anthology, load much faster on the same Mac. If the loading time improved in Syntronik 2, I'd be interested.

DarkStar
KVRAF
10048 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK

Post Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:02 am

MegaPixel wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:42 am
Arturia V8 Collection for €199
Maybe a silly question: but where are you seeing that price. Is it the upgrade from v7?
DarkStar, ... Interesting, if true
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flori89
KVRist
195 posts since 19 Aug, 2021

Post Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:06 am

DarkStar wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:02 am
MegaPixel wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:42 am
Arturia V8 Collection for €199
Maybe a silly question: but where are you seeing that price. Is it the upgrade from v7?
You need to own at least one Arturia Product to see that. If you grab Analoge Lite somewhere real quick then you will also get it for 199.

Meester Smeeeth
KVRist
37 posts since 26 Jul, 2005

Post Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:40 am

Chrisk-K wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:41 am
Meester Smeeeth wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:05 am
Syntronik is actually one of the least compelling IK products IMO due to the amount of space it takes up, limited amount of edibility and relatively slow loading times compared to modelled synths.
The only two synths I'm using from Syntronik are JX and Taurus emulations. One of the reasons why I don't use it often is slow loading time on my M1 Mac. Other sample-based instruments, like the UVI Synth Anthology, load much faster on the same Mac. If the loading time improved in Syntronik 2, I'd be interested.
I don't have Syntronik 2 full version, but I have tried Syntronik 2 CS (Your v1 instruments will work just as they did before and they work in ST4 which is now M1 native).

Syntronik 2 CS is worth a try. One of the new features for v2 is disk streaming but I don't think that the v1 instruments get that too. But as ST4 and Syntronik 2 CS are now M1 native they're faster all round anyway.

chili beans
KVRist
293 posts since 4 Sep, 2014

Post Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:49 am

Syntronik is more like Arturia Analog lab then the whole V collection. Syntronik is like a best of analog just like Analog lab is. Analog lab is still a lot more versatile then Syntronik by a long shot and a lot cheaper to boot

DarkStar
KVRAF
10048 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK

Post Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:09 am

flori89 wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:06 am
DarkStar wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:02 am
MegaPixel wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:42 am
Arturia V8 Collection for €199
Maybe a silly question: but where are you seeing that price. Is it the upgrade from v7?
You need to own at least one Arturia Product to see that. If you grab Analoge Lite somewhere real quick then you will also get it for 199.
Thank you. I cannot see Analog Lite available anywhere. I do have an Arturia Account with the Analog Lab 4 demo in it.
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turtletooth
KVRer
12 posts since 27 Nov, 2021

Post Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:18 am

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davidka
KVRian
544 posts since 22 Dec, 2010

Post Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:23 am

vertibration wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:48 am
V8......Lots of new things coming
You have any hints in particular?

vertibration
KVRian
587 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:48 am

davidka wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:23 am
vertibration wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:48 am
V8......Lots of new things coming
You have any hints in particular?
Hell no I dont.....

martinjuenke
KVRAF
5401 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:13 am

vertibration wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:48 am
davidka wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:23 am
vertibration wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:48 am
V8......Lots of new things coming
You have any hints in particular?
Hell no I dont.....
Well, you've had your 15 minutes of fame :clap:

Lbdunequest
KVRist
51 posts since 24 Sep, 2021

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:18 am

Arturia v8

I dont imagine why and who would buy syntronik that has mostly bunch of sampled Saw waveforms that take alot of space and whole insrtrument is ram and cpu intensive.

martinjuenke
KVRAF
5401 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:19 am

Lbdunequest wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:18 am
Arturia v8

I dont imagine why and who would buy syntronik that has mostly bunch of sampled Saw waveforms that take alot of space and whole insrtrument is ram and cpu intensive.
I bought it and am highly satisfied. Really inspiring stuff.

Lbdunequest
KVRist
51 posts since 24 Sep, 2021

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:20 am

martinjuenke wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:19 am
Lbdunequest wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:18 am
Arturia v8

I dont imagine why and who would buy syntronik that has mostly bunch of sampled Saw waveforms that take alot of space and whole insrtrument is ram and cpu intensive.
I bought it and am highly satisfied. Really inspiring stuff.
I also have it.

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