KVR oddly slow on M1 builds of chromium browsers

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teilo
KVRian
1100 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA

Post Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:43 pm

I've found a strange issue with extreme lag on KVR on my 14" M1 Pro laptop. On the M1-native builds of Chrome and Brave, KVR pages take forever to load, and I keep getting the "this page is taking too long to respond" message box. It seems to be related to the loading of 3rd-party scripts.

The weird thing is that I downloaded the Intel builds of Chrome and Brave and ran them under Rosetta2, and KVR is fast on them. It is only the M1 builds that do this, and only on KVR. All other sites are fast. FYI - the M1 build of Firefox doesn't have this issue. Very bizarre.

I'm sure KVR can do nothing about this, but I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this issue.

Bombadil
KVRAF
7331 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Down the Withywindle

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:38 am

No, but I'm using Safari mostly. Chrome works fine on my M1 as well.
“Always after a defeat and a respite," says Gandalf, "the Shadow takes another shape and grows again."
J.R.R. Tolkien

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teilo
KVRian

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1100 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:32 am

Bombadil wrote:
Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:38 am
No, but I'm using Safari mostly. Chrome works fine on my M1 as well.
Yeah. Safari and Firefox are both fine. Chrome/Brave under Rosetta is fine. But native Chrome/Brave, only on KVR, bogs down badly. So weird.

As I look at this more, it seems to have more to do with asynchronous page loading. For example, a forum post with a few YouTube embeds freezes the entire page until every embed loads. That doesn't happen in other browsers. The page loads fine, and then the embeds load asynchronously and appear whenever.

Are you on the original M1, or an M1 Pro/Max?

Bombadil
KVRAF
7331 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Down the Withywindle

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:36 am

Original M1 mini.
“Always after a defeat and a respite," says Gandalf, "the Shadow takes another shape and grows again."
J.R.R. Tolkien

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teilo
KVRian

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1100 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:44 am

Bombadil wrote:
Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:36 am
Original M1 mini.
I wonder if this is a corner case where thread core assignment optimizations are breaking on the M1 Pro due to the different E/P core counts between the M1 and the Pro/Max.

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be
KVRist
175 posts since 27 Sep, 2006 from Cologne, Germany

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:53 am

I have the same problem on my M1 Macbook Air with Brave.

Funkybot's Evil Twin
KVRAF
9233 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:20 am

I've had issues with KVR freezing on my 16" MBP with the M1 Pro chip and Edge.

grumpyG
KVRist
48 posts since 28 Nov, 2010

Post Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:41 am

Noticed the same issue on my M1 Air, initially thought the site was being smashed due to Black Friday but it loads fine in Safari

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pdxindy
KVRAF
20897 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:16 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:20 am
I've had issues with KVR freezing on my 16" MBP with the M1 Pro chip and Edge.
Same for me, but with Brave...

jcredland
KVRist
108 posts since 19 Nov, 2018

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:06 am

Yeah - I'm getting this all the time. Also on an M1 Chrome setup.

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teilo
KVRian

Topic Starter

1100 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA

Post Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:37 am

It seems to be an issue with any M1-native Chromium browser which includes Chrome, Brave, and Edge.

Bombadil
KVRAF
7331 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Down the Withywindle

Post Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:05 am

While Safari isn't my favourite browser, it seems the most secure, and gets me where I'm going.
“Always after a defeat and a respite," says Gandalf, "the Shadow takes another shape and grows again."
J.R.R. Tolkien

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Ben [KVR]
Mr KVR
1345 posts since 23 Oct, 2000 from Newport Pagnell, UK
KVR Audio

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:05 am

I'm trying to track this down, albeit without an M1 Mac.

Is it any better now?

Funkybot's Evil Twin
KVRAF
9233 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:52 pm

Just happened again here.

Anyone got any tips as to how to get useful diagnostic info when it occurs?

fjolle
KVRian
563 posts since 3 Aug, 2006

Post Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:05 pm

This is very interesting. I'm using a new MBP (M1 pro) and the KVR forum is unusable in Chrome (latest native version, 96.x), to the point where I can't refresh or anything. It only happens inside a thread on the forum, not on the Main Forum page.

I threw the Chrome profiler on it and it looks like it gets stuck here:

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