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In other news, Endlesss Studio now has a Windows version and they're saying both it and the Mac version will be free forever...
https://endlesss.fm/downloads

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dream22 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:40 am Anyone know if the codes for the 2 Waves freebies can be resold? I'm thinking of picking up the NX CLA and NX Shadow Hills, but I already own all of the plugins offered as free choices.
Waves dont have a Shadow Hills comp, you must have mixed up nx for Plugin Alliance bx Shadow Hills?

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xandde1 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:35 pm
Project wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:30 pm Just out of curiosity, does someone knows what was deal of the day #1 at the toontrack site? Today is deal #2, Synth-Pop EzKeys MIDI for 10$
https://www.toontrack.com/holiday-deal-week/
I guess it was EZX Americana for 23 Euro or something like that
Thanks for your reply, I was hoping of grabbing a few EZX at a very low price, but I already have Americana

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Insanelysane wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:13 pm
dream22 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:40 am Anyone know if the codes for the 2 Waves freebies can be resold? I'm thinking of picking up the NX CLA and NX Shadow Hills, but I already own all of the plugins offered as free choices.
Waves dont have a Shadow Hills comp, you must have mixed up nx for Plugin Alliance bx Shadow Hills?
Or NX Ocean Way....

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yes - I meant Ocean Way. thanks for all who responded!

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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:18 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:53 pm
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:25 am I feel for anyone who has fought hard to get Syntronik 2 installed only to find it has about two presets per instrument
Syntronik 2 has 4000+ presets. Syntronik 2 MAX has 5500+. Anybody who finds themselves with less than that should probably contact IK to find out what happened... I'm sure the team can help them directly.
How many presets are included in Syntronik 2 that weren't in the older synth models from Syntronik Deluxe?
Maybe it's the fault of the installer (again), but after I installed Syntronik 2 I could only see meagre presets accompanying the newly added synths e.g....
cato.png
You probably assumed that Syntronik 2 is a whole new instrument alongside the old Syntronik. It seems that Syntronik 2 simply replaced Syntronik Deluxe, as the old version is no longer available on the product page. So, Syntronik 2 means a new interface/engine with the Syntronik Deluxe contents. Considering the price level, you get the deluxe content (all 22 synths) for free when you buy the standard version of Syntronik 2. Now, when you want the new content, you have to get Syntronik 2 MAX, which adds 11 new synths, and that's the stuff you're missing.

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holdenhk wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:59 am
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:18 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:53 pm
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:25 am I feel for anyone who has fought hard to get Syntronik 2 installed only to find it has about two presets per instrument
Syntronik 2 has 4000+ presets. Syntronik 2 MAX has 5500+. Anybody who finds themselves with less than that should probably contact IK to find out what happened... I'm sure the team can help them directly.
How many presets are included in Syntronik 2 that weren't in the older synth models from Syntronik Deluxe?
Maybe it's the fault of the installer (again), but after I installed Syntronik 2 I could only see meagre presets accompanying the newly added synths e.g....
cato.png
You probably assumed that Syntronik 2 is a whole new instrument alongside the old Syntronik. It seems that Syntronik 2 simply replaced Syntronik Deluxe, as the old version is no longer available on the product page. So, Syntronik 2 means a new interface/engine with the Syntronik Deluxe contents. Considering the price level, you get the deluxe content (all 22 synths) for free when you buy the standard version of Syntronik 2. Now, when you want the new content, you have to get Syntronik 2 MAX, which adds 11 new synths, and that's the stuff you're missing.
No, Syntronik 2 adds some synths that weren’t in Deluxe like the CAT in my screenshot before, but I only see three presets with it.

It’s not listed in the Deluxe synths here…
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/syntronik1deluxe/

Or was this just included as a ‘teaser’ for the new synths and you have to get Max to have a decent amount of content?

Actually, as is usual with IK it’s all a bit confusing with contradictory statements on their site. Under Syntronik 2 here…
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/s ... /#whatsnew
…it mentions the 11 new synths in Syntronik 2, but in the comparison of versions matrix it says Syntronik 2 has 22 synths, but Max has 33.
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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:04 am No, Syntronik 2 adds some synths that weren’t in Deluxe like the CAT in my screenshot before, but I only see three presets with it.

It’s not listed in the Deluxe synths here…
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/syntronik1deluxe/

Or was this just included as a ‘teaser’ for the new synths and you have to get Max to have a decent amount of content?
Hmm... I have Syntronik 2 CS, and I definitely can't see the Cato. Also, if you check the page that compares all Syntronik versions, Cato IS NOT included in the plain Syntronik 2:
Screenshot 2021-12-15 111029.jpg
However, if you have the MAX versions, there are supposed to be 122 presets for the Cato alone:
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I think it’s the fault of their matrix. It shows 3 CATO presets against Syntronik 2 CS, which I guess is what I’m seeing. I probably have CS content as well as full v2.
So, what a con then. Ik gonna Ik.
Stupid bloody bundle names don’t help. Having just bought a package named “Total Studio Max” latest version which supposedly contains everything, about a week or two later they release extra content which they expect you to pay a small fortune for.

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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:19 am I think it’s the fault of their matrix. It shows 3 CATO presets against Syntronik 2, which I guess is what I’m seeing. I probably have CS content as well as full v2.
So, what a con then. Ik gonna Ik.
I was not able to see the new synths teasers in Syntronik 2, even though I just reinstalled the Syntronik CS sound pack. Then, I tried Sample Tank 4, and, YES, the new synths became visible! So, back to Syntronik 2, and CATO and others are here as well. Good, old IK! How not to love them?
BTW, did you really buy the standard Syntronik 2?

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holdenhk wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:28 am
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:19 am I think it’s the fault of their matrix. It shows 3 CATO presets against Syntronik 2, which I guess is what I’m seeing. I probably have CS content as well as full v2.
So, what a con then. Ik gonna Ik.
I was not able to see the new synths teasers in Syntronik 2, even though I just reinstalled the Syntronik CS sound pack. Then, I tried Sample Tank 4, and, YES, the new synths became visible! So, back to Syntronik 2, and CATO and others are here as well. Good, old IK! How not to love them?
BTW, did you really buy the standard Syntronik 2?
No, I upgraded from Total Studio 2 MAX to 3.5 and got it as a free update. I also had upgraded to Syntronik Deluxe at some point so not sure if that factored in.
Man, I’d have been ultra pissed off if I’d paid for Syntronik 2.
Their upgrade prices now are such a ripoff. I think from normal Syntronik to Deluxe was something like €49, but now they’re asking three times more to upgrade from 2 to 2 Max.

Meh, I played the waiting game on the total studio max upgrade until it was better value, will do the same for this.

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Before I read your post, I didn't realize that the newly advertised MAX 3.5 doesn't contain Syntronik 2,although it contains FAME, TEAC's and TASCAM's. That's a bit mean, although I can't say a bad word about IK after their 25GB steal of the century...

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holdenhk wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:39 am Before I read your post, I didn't realize that the newly advertised MAX 3.5 doesn't contain Syntronik 2,although it contains FAME, TEAC's and TASCAM's. That's a bit mean, although I can't say a bad word about IK after their 25GB steal of the century...
It was released very shortly after MAX 3.5 came out so presumably the marketing blurb wasn’t updated, but I did get v2 for free. Maybe it was timing when I bought it, last day of the sale I think.

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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:43 am
holdenhk wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:39 am Before I read your post, I didn't realize that the newly advertised MAX 3.5 doesn't contain Syntronik 2,although it contains FAME, TEAC's and TASCAM's. That's a bit mean, although I can't say a bad word about IK after their 25GB steal of the century...
It was released very shortly after MAX 3.5 came out so presumably the marketing blurb wasn’t updated, but I did get v2 for free. Maybe it was timing when I bought it, last day of the sale I think.
I wouldnt have thought you could say anything bad about IK in light of the 25 products for the price of one but now I wonder.What is the value of lost productivity and a massive amount of frustration injected into the music making process. After 2 weeks and 75gb of downloads my Syntronic looks just like the prvious posters just 2 or 3 presets. Not only that, I right away downloaded Modo Bass and Modo Drums , installed and authorized. Now, 2 weeks later Modo Bass is in demo mode and I have to reauthorize and the Brickwall Limiter is now "not correctly installed" This is a mess. The problem is IK has a Products Manager, an Authorization Manager and a My Products page. Apparently any one of those can show a product installed but it never was.I was away from IK for years so this could be user error but why hasnt this process been streamlined like Native Access??? I still dont know what I have or whats really installed

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Syntronik 2 SHOULD have about 1400 new presets vs deluxe, but no new instruments. That said, I might wait till a 30th anniversary group buy before getting it-- lots of other stuff out there that looks more interesting.

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