I'll be adding those new audio FX into the feedback of the delay's and reverb...xylyx wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:48 pm Yes, I found that odd - I don't really care about the effects, as I don't use chorus, phaser or flanger fx that often and already have enough options for them anyway. The midi grid is the thing that excites me and could finally see me purchase the upgrade...
Bitwig 4.2 Beta Discussion
- KVRAF
- 26971 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
- KVRAF
- 8075 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
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- KVRist
- 97 posts since 1 Feb, 2021
Well, someone wake Antic at least. Maybe he's in the Polish Army Reserve and got called up to the front 
I think this is a smart update. It may have slipped in the Bitwish polls y'all use but in this older poll it was number 2:
viewtopic.php?f=259&t=564892
Maybe they 'buried the lead', that is, put the most important feature low on the announcement page because they wanted to emphasize the audio side of things and not have the subscribers who are more interested in Audio rather than MIDI think that they're being overlooked. Not my idea, some one of you clever guys had mentioned the importance of this emphasis first.
I think this is a smart update. It may have slipped in the Bitwish polls y'all use but in this older poll it was number 2:
viewtopic.php?f=259&t=564892
Maybe they 'buried the lead', that is, put the most important feature low on the announcement page because they wanted to emphasize the audio side of things and not have the subscribers who are more interested in Audio rather than MIDI think that they're being overlooked. Not my idea, some one of you clever guys had mentioned the importance of this emphasis first.
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- KVRian
- 1415 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland
He's banned.Karlatin wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:21 pm Well, someone wake Antic at least. Maybe he's in the Polish Army Reserve and got called up to the front![]()
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- KVRian
- 766 posts since 26 Sep, 2007
The Note Grid is harder to sell the benefit of, I guess. The audio FX will likely be more immediately useful to me day-to-day, I suspect it's the same for most people who haven't been waiting for the Note Grid already. Personally I'm not sure what exactly I'd use it for (and the announcement doesn't do a great job at sparking my interest). I haven't even managed to fully explore all the new note effects from 4.1 yet! So there aren't really any gaps in that department for me that needed filling. I haven't watched the videos yet, though, maybe they're better at showing the Note Grid's potential.
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- KVRist
- 97 posts since 1 Feb, 2021
Good catch. And I like your sig.
That's too bad, this Antic guy has been a good thing for this forum, on the whole. Perhaps this has more to do with intolerance by Mods than anything else.
- KVRAF
- 6542 posts since 9 Dec, 2008 from Berlin
After a first quick test, I don't think the example presets for the Midi Grid do the new possibilities justice.
None of them inspired me at all, but I find it easy to work with and it should be fun to roll our own
Cheers,
Tom
None of them inspired me at all, but I find it easy to work with and it should be fun to roll our own
Cheers,
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 26971 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Note Grid looks great!
Cool that one can have multiple Note Outs... CC In and Out
There is also Note Thru and Control Thru toggle on/off so one can filter incoming midi
Cool that one can have multiple Note Outs... CC In and Out
There is also Note Thru and Control Thru toggle on/off so one can filter incoming midi
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- KVRist
- 389 posts since 29 Mar, 2017
Seems like a decent update, if slightly underwhelming for me personally. I appreciate core audio effects like chorus getting modernized, and there were a couple small quality of life improvements I spotted in the release notes. Note Grid opens up a bunch of possibilities, and feels like it had to come sooner than later, so that’s pretty cool.
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- KVRist
- 327 posts since 19 Oct, 2019
I actually like the retake on classic FXs, because for me stock FXs sounded a bit worse compared to other DAWs. And now we have Note Grid one of biggest features people wished for.
It seems that v4 is sort of MIDI themed, so next must be the actual place where "notes" are placed?
I hope so because I can live without any note devices
It seems that v4 is sort of MIDI themed, so next must be the actual place where "notes" are placed?
I hope so because I can live without any note devices
- KVRAF
- 26971 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Yup... there is now a key command for adding a cue marker!PhilipVasta wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:14 pm and there were a couple small quality of life improvements I spotted in the release notes.
The user names of modulators now shows in the modulator GUI
Pan and zoom via trackpad now work simultaneously instead of one or the other
Option to always send midi clock even when transport is stopped
- KVRian
- 522 posts since 25 Dec, 2002
Did they add MIDI comping yet? If not this update is not for me and will hold out on renewing my subscription plan until it's a thing. 🥱
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
cmon we instantly able to separate chord notes by channel numbers (Note Grid is poly one able to process chords)ThomasHelzle wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:54 pm After a first quick test, I don't think the example presets for the Midi Grid do the new possibilities justice.
None of them inspired me at all, but I find it easy to work with and it should be fun to roll our own
Cheers,
Tom

and able to chop them to smaller parts (FL channel rack, Nora) perfect for drum/bass/arp patterns (even shuffle is working nicely just put the image to full screen)
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- Banned
- 1376 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from france
- KVRian
- 1386 posts since 7 Dec, 2017
Not sure if I'll ever use it, or what for, but I know many people wanted "Note Grid", so congrats!
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