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oldcastle wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:46 pm Hi,

I'm not sure where to post a bug issue for M9, so please advise.

I'm running M9 on Linux with Wine 7.4 staging. Everything works fine, the speed of this program is better than some native ones :-)

I found one issue. When you first open M9, it presents you with a demo song. Now, if you right-click on any track and then click on "Choose Target Module", the window goes on and off instantly. It doesn't allow me to do anything. The same thing happens if you want to add an automation sub-track.

Can you reproduce this issue?

Cheers.
Linux user here. MuLab is a Windows application, as you know. It works fine in Windows. It's not a problem with MuLab, it's a problem in the WINE API layer. While there ARE things a developer can do to better support Windows apps running under WINE on Linux, the best solution is to get involved in the bug reporting at WINEHQ. They have a database of various apps, and testers can report their experiences and bug problems with the WINE API. That way, the WINE API can be improved/fixed to run the Windows version of MuLab under Linux. :) If you stay dedicated and involved with your MuLab testing and reporting as each version of WINE is released, I bet you can help things to eventually run as well on Linux as in Windows. :)

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Edit: Ha! Good on you! I see that you've already contacted WINEHQ! :tu:

https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=36332&p=136497

May I also suggest enrolling as a MuLab "maintainer" so that you can test each version and report to the developers any improvements or regressions between WINE versions?

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... &iId=17847
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I have tried the new Mulab 9 plugin in Reason 11 (on Windows 10) and it's great !
Too bad that you can't have a browser in the composer...
I have changed the GUI scale to 75% but it doesnt't change anything.... ????
But I'm impressed, incredible work !

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pquenin wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:11 pm I have tried the new Mulab 9 plugin in Reason 11 (on Windows 10) and it's great !
Too bad that you can't have a browser in the composer...
Why not?
I have changed the GUI scale to 75% but it doesnt't change anything.... ????
Also no effect after having restarted Reason?
But I'm impressed, incredible work !
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I looked at the new features for M9 but didn't see these mentioned:
1. Ability to have 'pre-sends' inside a MUX which target top-level racks,
2. Improved MIDI automation curves (i.e. use of a paintbrush type tool to draw automation columns/curves.
Perhaps they have made it into the final product and I've missed them?

Also, in the Help Docs, on the page (https://www.mutools.com/info/M9/docs/mu ... n-map.html) the Note Action Map image doesn't match the description below it. Might be handy to coordinate the two.
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Thank you so much for M9, that's awesome! Some new things to get used to, new things to find out, too.
Instantly I ran into one curiosity:

Assigning different MIDI channels to sub-tracks doesn't seem to work anymore right off the bet, if at all? I've come to realize that one can tell a parent track to get channels set per sequence, which is quite nice, but I still would think the old way of setting a midi channel for a specific track should work without altering the whole track assembly's assignment. :shrug:
Last edited by Taron on Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:02 am, edited 2 times in total.

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Selecting an external editor? I also updated my thread about this. Thanks for solving my issue.
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Taron wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:37 pm Assigning different MIDI channels to sub-tracks doesn't seem to work anymore right off the bet, if at all? I've come to realize that one can tell a parent track to get channels set per sequence, which is quite nice, but I still would think the old way of setting a midi channel for a specific track should work without altering the whole track assembly's assignment. :shrug:
You can assign a different MIDI channel for each track, also for sub-tracks. So not sure what you mean. Pls elaborate.

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sdv wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:10 pm 1. Ability to have 'pre-sends' inside a MUX which target top-level racks,
If you want to send a signal from a deeper MUX to a parent MUX, then send the signal to an output that the parent can see & connect.
Also, in the Help Docs, on the page (https://www.mutools.com/info/M9/docs/mu ... n-map.html) the Note Action Map image doesn't match the description below it. Might be handy to coordinate the two.
Taken note, thx.

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Jo, on my 2016 iMac Mojave, any kind of operations, in Mulab the DAW, have a slight delay not experienced on windows 10.
Like writing in the piano roll for example, there is a delay when doing any editing or just writing notes, erase, scrolling, zooming etc.

The Plugin version so far no problem (in Ableton).

Is there something I need to adjust for the iMac that I'm not aware of?

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mutools wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:27 am
Taron wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:37 pm Assigning different MIDI channels to sub-tracks doesn't seem to work anymore right off the bet, if at all? I've come to realize that one can tell a parent track to get channels set per sequence, which is quite nice, but I still would think the old way of setting a midi channel for a specific track should work without altering the whole track assembly's assignment. :shrug:
You can assign a different MIDI channel for each track, also for sub-tracks. So not sure what you mean. Pls elaborate.
I have one rack, inside is Kontakt.
There is one track with this rack as target.
I make sub-tracks from this track.
I right click on a sub track, assign a different midi channel, but it will change all tracks, parent and sub tracks.
Let's say the parent track was set to midi channel 1. I make a sub track, set midi channel to 2. If I now select track one to play notes, it will send as midi channel 2, too, and no longer as midi channel 1.
That has never been that way before.
I'll try again tomorrow, maybe record a video for you.

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liquidsound wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:06 am Jo, on my 2016 iMac Mojave, any kind of operations, in Mulab the DAW, have a slight delay not experienced on windows 10.
FWIW, on my 2018 Mac Mini Mojave no delay but your issue seems to be mouse-lag so check Bluetooth issues/ reset, System Preference tracking speed, mouse battery, MuLab 'Mouse Hover Delay Time' preference, try a different port, open in safe mode, and Google for more possiblities.
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liquidsound wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:06 am Jo, on my 2016 iMac Mojave, any kind of operations, in Mulab the DAW, have a slight delay not experienced on windows 10.
Like writing in the piano roll for example, there is a delay when doing any editing or just writing notes, erase, scrolling, zooming etc.
I had the same problem, I even written about it above in this same thread, and to me the only proper solution was to upgrade the macOS to Catalina. Yeah, it's a drag, but it seems that MuLab just works better with that OS and my ancient mac mini 2012. In general I've found Mojave to be under performer regarding responsiveness, so it helped in general also.
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Taron wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:15 am I have one rack, inside is Kontakt.
There is one track with this rack as target.
I make sub-tracks from this track.
I right click on a sub track, assign a different midi channel, but it will change all tracks, parent and sub tracks.
Let's say the parent track was set to midi channel 1. I make a sub track, set midi channel to 2. If I now select track one to play notes, it will send as midi channel 2, too, and no longer as midi channel 1.
That has never been that way before.
I'll try again tomorrow, maybe record a video for you.
Yes please make a video as i can't repeat what you describe. Thx.

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Here's an unlisted youtube video for you. No worries, it's not public beyond here! ;)

This is MuLab 9:



This was MuLab 8:

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M9 plugin struggles with hanging notes. I use Reaper and the M9 plugin beside another plugin on Mac. When I send the same midi signal to the two plugins and press stop, M9 gets hanging notes. As the other plugin, which receives the same midi data, doesn't have hanging notes, it should be an issue of M9. Inside the M9plugin is just an internal sound module. It seems that M9 doesn't receive the last note off command, when the DAW is stopping.

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