MuLab 9.0.59 App + Plugin

[liquidsound]

Jo, on my 2016 iMac Mojave, any kind of operations, in Mulab the DAW, have a slight delay not experienced on windows 10.

FWIW, on my 2018 Mac Mini Mojave no delay but your issue seems to be mouse-lag so check Bluetooth issues/ reset, System Preference tracking speed, mouse battery, MuLab 'Mouse Hover Delay Time' preference, try a different port, open in safe mode, and Google for more possiblities.

I’m going to try your suggestions.
The plug-in version is working fine though…

Thanks!

[liquidsound]

Jo, on my 2016 iMac Mojave, any kind of operations, in Mulab the DAW, have a slight delay not experienced on windows 10.
Like writing in the piano roll for example, there is a delay when doing any editing or just writing notes, erase, scrolling, zooming etc.

I had the same problem, I even written about it above in this same thread, and to me the only proper solution was to upgrade the macOS to Catalina. Yeah, it's a drag, but it seems that MuLab just works better with that OS and my ancient mac mini 2012. In general I've found Mojave to be under performer regarding responsiveness, so it helped in general also.

That may be a move I considered for quite some time but I wasn’t sure it was advantageous to do so far.

If nothing else works, I may have to finally do it.

Thanks!

[liquidsound]

Ok, I'm using a usb mouse, changed the Mouse Hover Delay etc. = same lag problem.
MuLab 8.x = same problem
MuLab 7.x = perfect behavior!

Note that I never used MuLab on my Mac before, so I was no able to see this issue.

If Michael L has no problems then I need to zero in and figure it out.
MuLab Plugin works perfectly and so all the other DAWs... that's the puzzle

[kejkz]

For me this issue started to happen after MuLab 8.7.6 update, before it was working quite well. I would have never thought that system upgrade would do me a favor there, but it seems it has, so now I'm enjoying MuLab in full speed.

[liquidsound]

For me this issue started to happen after MuLab 8.7.6 update, before it was working quite well. I would have never thought that system upgrade would do me a favor there, but it seems it has, so now I'm enjoying MuLab in full speed.

I tested MuLab in the Bootcamp partition and it works perfectly and snappy.
So it’s not the hardware. The thing is, your experience improved with Catalina while Michael has no issues on Mojave.

I would not mind to upgrade the OS but with Macs you never know what’s next after turning the corner on a one way street (AFAIK you can’t go back to the previous OS).

I wonder if Jo can dig out what happened, like you said, after v8.7.6. If that’s a correct circumstance.

[liquidsound]

I found something.

If I expand MuLab to full screen then I experience the mouse "lag" .
If I shrink the MuLab window to at least 60% (approx) of the full screen, then the 'lag' is not longer there.

I then tried the Plugin version and this time I went full screen with it as well and... "lag" is there too.

So is the GUI size then...

Any idea how to overcome this behavior ?

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch)

[MuTools]

Here's an unlisted youtube video for you. No worries, it's not public beyond here!

Ok i see what you mean now, it's related to MIDI input routing.
Playing parts from these tracks do use the correct MIDI channel.
Will fix the MIDI input routing bug.
Thx for reporting this.

[MuTools]

M9 plugin struggles with hanging notes. I use Reaper and the M9 plugin beside another plugin on Mac. When I send the same midi signal to the two plugins and press stop, M9 gets hanging notes. As the other plugin, which receives the same midi data, doesn't have hanging notes, it should be an issue of M9. Inside the M9plugin is just an internal sound module. It seems that M9 doesn't receive the last note off command, when the DAW is stopping.

Please make a copy of that reaper project and remove any other VSTs besides MuLab 9 Plugin.
So the result should be a simple reaper project with only M9 Plugin and with a hanging note on stop.
Then pls zip that reaper project and email it to

[wibem1]

For me this issue started to happen after MuLab 8.7.6 update, before it was working quite well. I would have never thought that system upgrade would do me a favor there, but it seems it has, so now I'm enjoying MuLab in full speed.

I tested MuLab in the Bootcamp partition and it works perfectly and snappy.
So it’s not the hardware. The thing is, your experience improved with Catalina while Michael has no issues on Mojave.

I would not mind to upgrade the OS but with Macs you never know what’s next after turning the corner on a one way street (AFAIK you can’t go back to the previous OS).

I wonder if Jo can dig out what happened, like you said, after v8.7.6. If that’s a correct circumstance.

You can try the new OS on a second partition of the HD. If it' s not doing well, you can just delete the partition.

[MuTools]

I wonder if Jo can dig out what happened, like you said, after v8.7.6. If that’s a correct circumstance.

I've uploaded the M8.6.24 for Mac binary here: https://www.mutools.com/mulab/legacy-versions/M8/

Install it in your M8 folder, maybe using a separate name so that your most recent M8 (M8.8.6) and this M8.6.24 are in the same M8 folder. Then you can compare the "mouse lag" behavior.
Is there a difference indeed?

NB: Don't put that M8 binary in a M9 folder, it won't work.

[elnn]

Crashes Digital Performer when loading plugin. Same as the latest MUX 8. Rosetta, probably.

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[liquidsound]

I wonder if Jo can dig out what happened, like you said, after v8.7.6. If that’s a correct circumstance.

I've uploaded the M8.6.24 for Mac binary here: https://www.mutools.com/mulab/legacy-versions/M8/

Install it in your M8 folder, maybe using a separate name so that your most recent M8 (M8.8.6) and this M8.6.24 are in the same M8 folder. Then you can compare the "mouse lag" behavior.
Is there a difference indeed?

NB: Don't put that M8 binary in a M9 folder, it won't work.

I’m going to take a long lunch brake and go test the M8.

Also, in case you missed one of my posts, that lag disappears as soon I reduce the size of MuLab 9 window to approximately 60% of the full screen on my 27” iMac.

I will report asap.

Thank you.

[humanboeing]

Mulab plugin, Windows, there is a pre-post fader bug: click on the stereo panning knob and start adjusting it, while doing it move the mouse to the pre-post fader, it will move but it shouldn't. It also affects the gain and stereo width controls.

[liquidsound]

Here we go,
So, the test gave me the same results: Lag.

It must be a graphic issue because, as I shrink the MuLab main window, the lag becomes less and less until (at 60% or less) it’s not longer there and actually the response gets very snapping when the overall window gets even smaller.

The lag is even more visible when working in the automation track. The curve manipulation has a more “visible” lag then the piano roll.

M7 is super snappy.

[pljones]

On the lag question, I've a random thought that may relate: when did SVG graphics start being used?