It's getting stuck when there are two presets in a row with the same name. Looks like if you upgraded from 11 the 4osc presets got doubled. So delete the ones from the user presets folder and it'll work again.paradiddle wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:29 pm So I load 4osc on a track. Select a preset and trying to go through more presets by pressing the right arrow and nothing. Only going left works. Latest win10 here. Anybody have this prob?
Version 12 release date?
- KVRian
- 1299 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2495 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
I’ll try it again tonight (I’m in Seattle/Pacific Time), and maybe reinstall the 30 day demo in case something went sideways. I’m using Windows 10. I still have the last (paid) version of Waveform 11.5 Pro installed.FigBug wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:39 amThat should still work. What OS are you on?vitocorleone123 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:28 am Is it me, or can I no longer drag synths/fx to a track, or even from one track to another? That's a huge usability impact for me as that's how I've done it for many years and versions of the DAW.
- KVRian
- 1299 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
I see the issue. In W11, plugins had no maximum size, they grew to fill all the horizontal space. In 12 they have a maximum size, and there is empty space if there is extra room. You can't drag plugins into the extra room, you have to drag next to an existing plugin.vitocorleone123 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:59 pmI’ll try it again tonight (I’m in Seattle/Pacific Time), and maybe reinstall the 30 day demo in case something went sideways. I’m using Windows 10. I still have the last (paid) version of Waveform 11.5 Pro installed.FigBug wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:39 amThat should still work. What OS are you on?vitocorleone123 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:28 am Is it me, or can I no longer drag synths/fx to a track, or even from one track to another? That's a huge usability impact for me as that's how I've done it for many years and versions of the DAW.
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2495 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Ah. Glad you identified the issue.FigBug wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:30 pmI see the issue. In W11, plugins had no maximum size, they grew to fill all the horizontal space. In 12 they have a maximum size, and there is empty space if there is extra room. You can't drag plugins into the extra room, you have to drag next to an existing plugin.vitocorleone123 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:59 pmI’ll try it again tonight (I’m in Seattle/Pacific Time), and maybe reinstall the 30 day demo in case something went sideways. I’m using Windows 10. I still have the last (paid) version of Waveform 11.5 Pro installed.FigBug wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:39 amThat should still work. What OS are you on?vitocorleone123 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:28 am Is it me, or can I no longer drag synths/fx to a track, or even from one track to another? That's a huge usability impact for me as that's how I've done it for many years and versions of the DAW.
Would it be possible to support the prior behavior of allowing drag and drop? That is, dragging into the empty area on a track should drop it to the left of whatever is currently the leftmost plugin. Wanting anything to the right of an existing plugin on the track would mean dropping it specifically like the current behavior in v12. But I could also click shift or control (forget) while dragging from one track onto the next to quickly add that plugin to another track. Basically, I didn't have to think too hard and hunt through menus because Tracktion/Waveform was so point and click. I use this capability in every session for as far back as I can remember (T5? T3?). Thanks!!
- KVRian
- 1299 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
- KVRAF
- 4891 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
The behavior is the same, it's just that there is an extra blank space now. In WF11 you could drag to the area immediately to the left of the first plugin. In WF12 you can drag to the area immediately to the left of the first plugin (on the plus symbol). The action is the same, the surrounding visuals are not.vitocorleone123 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:23 pm Would it be possible to support the prior behavior of allowing drag and drop?
However, I do agree that it would feel more intuitive to be able to drop a plugin in that empty space.
Surely there must be consensus by now...
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2495 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Thanks so much, FigBug!FigBug wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:25 pm Yes, I will change the behaviour in the next build of Waveform.
- KVRian
- 1299 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
They are coming, in the mean time:dlandis wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:47 am Can someone tell me: does Bass Osc have any presets?
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- KVRian
- 973 posts since 24 Oct, 2006
Thanks again, Figbug. I wasn't sure if I was missing them or not looking in right place.
Waveform 12 looks very nice, BTW. I bought it last night.
Dan
“Madness, as you know, is like gravity: all it takes is a little push.”
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- KVRist
- 42 posts since 7 Jul, 2018
Just wanted to give credit where it's due. Waveform 12 is so far a joy to work with. It's visually much sharper and a lot of issues seem to have been worked out (particularly in the latest beta - thanks for that!) The new features work really well. All things considered, it's the Waveform I was waiting for. (If only it was still called Tracktion, though 
- KVRAF
- 1666 posts since 22 Oct, 2004 from Schmocation
Googling info on it was so much easier when it was called Tracktion. Calling it "Waveform" is a bit like calling it "the" in terms of distinctiveness for googling. Should have stuck to the name for the DAW and changed the name of the company instead of the other way around.
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- KVRist
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
It was a terrible decision! So many technical, medical, and other results while googling "Waveform 12"skipscada wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:59 amGoogling info on it was so much easier when it was called Tracktion. Calling it "Waveform" is a bit like calling it "the" in terms of distinctiveness for googling. Should have stuck to the name for the DAW and changed the name of the company instead of the other way around.
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
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- KVRist
- 42 posts since 7 Jul, 2018
And then there's the Waveform icon. It looks like the sort of logo that would be on the headquarters building of an evil corporation designed to genetically engineer human clone slaves in a 1960s sci-fi movie.UnionS8 wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:24 amIt was a terrible decision! So many technical, medical, and other results while googling "Waveform 12"skipscada wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:59 amGoogling info on it was so much easier when it was called Tracktion. Calling it "Waveform" is a bit like calling it "the" in terms of distinctiveness for googling. Should have stuck to the name for the DAW and changed the name of the company instead of the other way around.I don't remember, what I've been searching for, but I didn't get a single W12 related result among the others
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- KVRist
- 33 posts since 17 Mar, 2007
What really bugs me is the excuse that’s called “colour editor”. It shouldn’t be that hard to have a proper editor like the one we had until Tracktion 6.
MacBook Pro i7 - 16 GB RAM
10.13.6 (High Sierra)
Tracktion 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, W8, W9, W10 Pro, W11 Pro, W11.5 Pro, W12 Pro
Logic Pro X
ProTools 9, 10, 11
10.13.6 (High Sierra)
Tracktion 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, W8, W9, W10 Pro, W11 Pro, W11.5 Pro, W12 Pro
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