Syntronik 2 Discussions
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- KVRian
- 1342 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden
Just picked up all the 11 new Syntronik 2 instruments, as I already had Syntronik 2 Standard. €44 (including Jam Points and VAT) isn't too bad for the upgrade.
Now the fun part, getting everything installed. So far I've had to install GS-V twice and Syner-V 3 times before all the presets seemed to "stick". After the first installation, several presets would display errors about being unable to find certain files.
The installation routine goes something like this:
1. Auto install using the Product Manager
2. Load up a bunch of random presets and see if they work
3. If/when you encounter one that doesn't work, Reinstall using Product Manager
4. Check presets again
5. Download the zips manually and do a Windiff with those downloaded with the Product Manager to make sure they're the same and not corrupted
6. Manually extract each Zip and run the installers one by one
Now the fun part, getting everything installed. So far I've had to install GS-V twice and Syner-V 3 times before all the presets seemed to "stick". After the first installation, several presets would display errors about being unable to find certain files.
The installation routine goes something like this:
1. Auto install using the Product Manager
2. Load up a bunch of random presets and see if they work
3. If/when you encounter one that doesn't work, Reinstall using Product Manager
4. Check presets again
5. Download the zips manually and do a Windiff with those downloaded with the Product Manager to make sure they're the same and not corrupted
6. Manually extract each Zip and run the installers one by one
Take a single oscillator, producing a drone. Send it to the wave shaper, altering the tone.
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- KVRAF
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- 19791 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
I don't think IK is being intentionally fraudulent I just think they are utterly incompetent. Either the number is incorrect or they're just not communicating properly.jdoo wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 3:50 am Back to the number of presets thing. There certainly is miscommunication on IKMs part here. They say XXX number of presets, but deliver YYY.
The "it's the instrument presets plus the wavesets" excuse just doesn't cut it as the numbers simply don't add up.
We should all submit support tickets at the same time on the same subject to point out why not providing direct forum support on the same site where they promote their sales is inefficient and quite frankly disrespectful.
My fear is that even if we can reliably reproduce the crashes the chances for a fix are pretty slim.LoveEnigma18 wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 6:07 amI also had a crash in FL Studio, probably with a multi only, yesterday. Not able to reproduce it again, so I will ignore it for now.Teksonik wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 10:44 pm Anyway I already got a corrupted Multi that crashed Cakewalk and FL Studio. I finally managed to get it to load but it's not the way I saved it so....corrupted.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 19791 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Ok a little test if someone would be so kind if you have the required instruments in your collection.
This Multi:
Requires:
Megawave
Galaxy
DCO-X
SY99
All of which are native Version 2 or upgraded from V1.
If you have those in your collection can you please try to load the Multi and see if loads properly?
The ST4M file shows as 2,159KB but the zip files shows 45.3 KB which seems like a pretty high compression.
Oh and the Megawave preset "Wait for It" is a semitone sharp.
This Multi:
Requires:
Megawave
Galaxy
DCO-X
SY99
All of which are native Version 2 or upgraded from V1.
If you have those in your collection can you please try to load the Multi and see if loads properly?
The ST4M file shows as 2,159KB but the zip files shows 45.3 KB which seems like a pretty high compression.
Oh and the Megawave preset "Wait for It" is a semitone sharp.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 19791 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
*Sigh*.....I got the following crash log in FL Studio when trying to load a Multi I just created today.
The problem is that the log references Syntronik 2.dll so Image-Line support will automatically blame the plugin and mark the thread as solved if I report it to them.
Opening a support ticket with IK is such an unpleasant endeavor and I have little to no faith they will be able to understand let alone fix the issue.
To be honest FL Studio has become pretty wonky here of late but to be equally honest whenever I use an IK instrument plugin I feel like I'm beta testing it so I can't really assign blame at this point.
I did get crashes in Cakewalk when loading Multis yesterday so that would tend to point towards Syntronik 2 as the culprit. Cakewalk is normally pretty rock solid here.....
The problem is that the log references Syntronik 2.dll so Image-Line support will automatically blame the plugin and mark the thread as solved if I report it to them.
Opening a support ticket with IK is such an unpleasant endeavor and I have little to no faith they will be able to understand let alone fix the issue.
To be honest FL Studio has become pretty wonky here of late but to be equally honest whenever I use an IK instrument plugin I feel like I'm beta testing it so I can't really assign blame at this point.
I did get crashes in Cakewalk when loading Multis yesterday so that would tend to point towards Syntronik 2 as the culprit. Cakewalk is normally pretty rock solid here.....
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
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- KVRAF
- 12083 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
So if IK get the desired 3000 they will have made 150 000 E from this campaign (less jam points), not to shabby.
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Yes, that does seem a lot of comppression.Teksonik wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 3:24 pm Ok a little test if someone would be so kind if you have the required instruments in your collection.
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The ST4M file shows as 2,159KB but the zip files shows 45.3 KB which seems like a pretty high compression.
PS Multis are xml files - you can open them in Notepad !
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Your Multi crashes Reaper and Bitwig here too. I'll report it 
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
For all you Syntronik 1 owners, this FAQ looks useful: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/faq/index.php?id=1423
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- KVRAF
- 3735 posts since 17 Sep, 2016
Could you be so kind as to explain where you found any Syntronik 2 factory Multis?Teksonik wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 3:24 pm
If you have those in your collection can you please try to load the Multi and see if loads properly?
I have looked all over and come up empty. I can find them in Syntronik 1, but the list is blank in Syntronik 2, unless I create them.
Windows 10 and too many plugins
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- KVRAF
- 12083 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Click the icon far left to enter the multi mode with 4 keyboards, then click 'default' below that icon, the multi menu should now open with drop down selections in different categories.zzz00m wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 5:22 pmCould you be so kind as to explain where you found any Syntronik 2 factory Multis?Teksonik wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 3:24 pm
If you have those in your collection can you please try to load the Multi and see if loads properly?
I have looked all over and come up empty. I can find them in Syntronik 1, but the list is blank in Syntronik 2, unless I create them.
X32 Desk, i9 PC, S88MK3, S1, BWS, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6 Pro3, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone II, OP1-F, OPXY, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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Synth Master Jedi Synth Master Jedi https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=307346
- Banned
- 453 posts since 21 Jun, 2013
Yes, things are going to have to pick up just slightly, if we are to make it 100% to the finish line.
This is my totally non-scientific line that I drew on your chart.
It's still doable of course, we just need a few more people for the final stretch into the finish line, and there are probably still quite a few procrastinators around who haven't joined yet.

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- KVRAF
- 3735 posts since 17 Sep, 2016
Thanks! But that's exactly what Syntronik 2 is NOT doing here. All I have is "Initialize" and "Save as". I am familiar with how this works in Syntronik 1, and I see plenty of factory multis in that one.SLiC wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 7:30 pmClick the icon far left to enter the multi mode with 4 keyboards, then click 'default' below that icon, the multi menu should now open with drop down selections in different categories.zzz00m wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 5:22 pmCould you be so kind as to explain where you found any Syntronik 2 factory Multis?Teksonik wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 3:24 pm
If you have those in your collection can you please try to load the Multi and see if loads properly?
I have looked all over and come up empty. I can find them in Syntronik 1, but the list is blank in Syntronik 2, unless I create them.
Windows 10 and too many plugins
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 19791 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Thanks! It doesn't always crash though. I was able to load it and several other Multi's without a crash this afternoon so I'm not sure what's going on.DarkStar wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 4:32 pm Your Multi crashes Reaper and Bitwig here too. I'll report it
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 19791 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
I shut the studio down so I'll have a look tomorrow. I haven't really looked for the factory Multis yet.zzz00m wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 5:22 pmCould you be so kind as to explain where you found any Syntronik 2 factory Multis?Teksonik wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 3:24 pm
If you have those in your collection can you please try to load the Multi and see if loads properly?
I have looked all over and come up empty. I can find them in Syntronik 1, but the list is blank in Syntronik 2, unless I create them.
Here's where the custom Multis are stored (at least here on windows).
The factory Multis might be in the documents folder but all I have on this system is the free version of Syntronik because I don't have much room left on the drives.
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