There usually needs to be good reason for something to be worth implementing. That reason could be many users request it, or like in this case, a solid reason was given in the end. Either way, Jo can't add a feature just cos someone asks for it, it's just not feasible.
switch composer<-> edit shortcut
- KVRAF
- 3156 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Hey, hermu, I've been there, I've mistakenly thought Jo is being very closed minded about certain fr's too. But honestly it was my mistake! It's simply that Jo has too little time and resources to do everything and has to be careful what his time is spent on. It's not a personal thing, though I know, it can feel that way. So, don't go down that road 
There usually needs to be good reason for something to be worth implementing. That reason could be many users request it, or like in this case, a solid reason was given in the end. Either way, Jo can't add a feature just cos someone asks for it, it's just not feasible.

There usually needs to be good reason for something to be worth implementing. That reason could be many users request it, or like in this case, a solid reason was given in the end. Either way, Jo can't add a feature just cos someone asks for it, it's just not feasible.
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- KVRist
- 112 posts since 21 Nov, 2018
In both Reaper and Cantabile there is no element in Mulab plugin that accepts ESC. No matter what I'm doing in Mulab plugin, ESC will always close the plugin window.mutools wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:54 amIf Esc would close a plugin window it would mean that the key focus is on that plugin window hence it would not take action in the composer window.i agree with cousin_tt, press Esc could have a unexpected side effect and close other open plugins.
If Esc would close the part editor and return to main composer view it would mean that the key focus is on the composer window hence it would not take action in a plugin window.
So i don't see any problematic interference.
Please consider adding a dedicated hotkey.
- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
It already is on the wishlist, cfr earlier message.
But you added an extra reason to add it.
Indeed relying on Esc can be ambiguous in a host-plugin context.
Thx for highlighting this.
But you added an extra reason to add it.
Indeed relying on Esc can be ambiguous in a host-plugin context.
Thx for highlighting this.
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- KVRist
- 112 posts since 21 Nov, 2018
Thanks!
For completeness, ESC does close popup menus in Mulab plugin.
For completeness, ESC does close popup menus in Mulab plugin.
- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Yes any window separate from the main plugin window will response normally on key strokes. It's only about the main plugin window because there is that typical shameful fight for key strokes between host and plugins. There should be a neat protocol for handling key strokes when using plugins in hosts.
- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Does VST3 address anything like that?mutools wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 3:37 pm Yes any window separate from the main plugin window will response normally on key strokes. It's only about the main plugin window because there is that typical shameful fight for key strokes between host and plugins. There should be a neat protocol for handling key strokes when using plugins in hosts.
- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
