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musicdevelopments wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:37 pm
sj1 wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:48 pmAnd please, could someone tell me how to clear the MIDI Mutator and start over. I certainly apologize if I am missing what should be obvious, but the workflow is completely obscure to me.
You don't want to clear the MIDI Mutator, because it was designed for modifying existing MIDI files/sequences/patterns, not for creating something new from scratch. If you want to create a new phrase that sounds good with any chords, the Phrase Editor must be used. BTW certain elements from the MIDI Mutator will be also added in the Phrase Editor soon.

Otherwise BluGenes' solution is perfect for removing all notes if that is what you want.

Thanks,
Attila
Thanks for commenting!

If the MM were always tied/sized to the last thing/phrase loaded into it, that I could understand. That doesn't appear to be what I'm observing though.

When I add a new phrase to the MM, it does not replace the old one. Rather, the MM just keeps growing, with no seeming way to reset it. This I do not understand as to how it could be intended.

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I also really liked the Timing in Mutator! And I didn't really like the Chords. For example, how can I do a progression of 13 chords?

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And yes, I understand that the Mutator is not a progression generator, but only a modifier. But I would like to modify a simple progression into a complex one) So far, for me, the Mutator is the Rhythmic Mutator. ))

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The Timing adjustment causes the program to freeze first, and then Crash.
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Yes, beta 12 is often frozen .
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Freezing occurs, including when I try to adjust the transposition button in the Mutator

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You are right, transposition works only on selected notes. When there is no selection, all unlocked notes should be transposed.
I am fixing this now...
lulukom wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:28 pm I do exactly as you described, but the chords in the Mutator do not change. If you want , I can make a video
Yes, please do. Basically the rendered notes that you see on the composition should appear in the MIDI Mutator. Maybe there is a bug but it always worked for me.

Thanks,
Attila
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There were some misunderstandings so here are some thoughts:

This is how MIDI Mutator is different from other tools in RapidComposer

1. You work with absolute notes instead of chord-relative or scale-relative notes (although chord and scale notes are displayed with different colors for your convenience)
2. The notes determine the chords which are updated after each editing step. Here the chords depend on the notes instead of notes depending on chords as it happens in RC.
3. Chords are not displayed for monophonic patterns in the MIDI Mutator, only for polyphonic notes.
4. You typically work on imported MIDI rather than starting editing from scratch. The MIDI Mutator is about modifying an existing MIDI track.
5. Notes are the most important here. All editing and transformations are destructive but you can get back to previous notes (undo) or save a good sequence (click on the 'heart' button)

EDIT: added a new item
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RapidComposer v4.4b13 is available!

All changes are in the MIDI Mutator.

Improvements:
  • Keyboard shortcuts added for locking, unlocking, vertical and horizontal inversion
  • Accent options are in a separate group
  • Added "Make monophonic" (Chords) and "Remove short notes" (Shape)
  • Fixed: transposition worked on selected notes only and had no effect without selection
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Hello Attila!
beta 13 ".. the first thing I checked was transposition to Mutator. And immediately freeze and crash.
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Hello lulukom,

thanks for your help! :tu:
I do not know the exact reason (probably a weird chord name?) why it crashed, but I added extra checks so that this won't happen next time.

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Hi Steve,

it should work exactly as you described. The MM always resets the length when something is dropped on it, or phrases loaded with Shift-double-click.
How could I reproduce that keeping growing? This sounds frightening, I cannot find an explanation for this. :(

Thanks!
Attila
sj1 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:12 pm If the MM were always tied/sized to the last thing/phrase loaded into it, that I could understand. That doesn't appear to be what I'm observing though.

When I add a new phrase to the MM, it does not replace the old one. Rather, the MM just keeps growing, with no seeming way to reset it. This I do not understand as to how it could be intended.
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lulukom wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:36 pm And yes, I understand that the Mutator is not a progression generator, but only a modifier. But I would like to modify a simple progression into a complex one) So far, for me, the Mutator is the Rhythmic Mutator. ))


Good question is there a way that I could import a 4 bar chords and then just hit a button and turn it into 7 chords.



Would be very useful if it could intelligently just suggest different inversions without you having to pick them one by one.

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Is it possible to have a option to morph two phrases together as I know you can apply rhythm but it would be great if you could drag another midi and then choose the percentage of how much they morph together.

It would be a little bit like applying shape but with the option of choosing how much of the new midi you're applying

That way you could take two of your favourite patterns and create a brand new one

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lovemusic15 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:10 am Is it possible to have a option to morph two phrases together as I know you can apply rhythm but it would be great if you could drag another midi and then choose the percentage of how much they morph together.
Try using the "Phrase Morpher" generator.. It's in the browser..

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