Yamaha-SY99 Plugin?

[4damind]

I don't know if there is really that much interest in a SY emulation? I don't find the SY so exciting that I need an emulation (I own a SY99 myself).

Well... You are the first SY99 owner I see that are not interested in having a software emulation.

I am also an owner of a SY99 (and an expanded TG77) and would be very happy to have a software version (at least to be able to recreate all my older projects without having to go back to the hardware).

The SY99 is certainly a great synth and was also Yamaha's flagship at the time. I was always amazed by the Chick Corea demo song
I had also bought samples, waveform cards and memory expansions. But for more complex productions, the polyphony was simply too low. Some time ago, I loaded a few of my old SY99 projects and found that notes were often cut off (unfortunately, I often had this problem with SY99... I just searched for the mix of some SY99 projects and uploaded them to Soundcloud... there you can also hear the problem with the low polyphony).
Of course you can still use the SY today, but if you are honest, you can do more with any current wavetable synth?
That's why I don't really have such a big need for an emulation. It might be interesting (for me) only to load old projects.

https://soundcloud.com/52degree/sy99-de ... al_sharing

[fmr]

I don't know if there is really that much interest in a SY emulation? I don't find the SY so exciting that I need an emulation (I own a SY99 myself).

Well... You are the first SY99 owner I see that are not interested in having a software emulation.

I am also an owner of a SY99 (and an expanded TG77) and would be very happy to have a software version (at least to be able to recreate all my older projects without having to go back to the hardware).

The SY99 is certainly a great synth and was also Yamaha's flagship at the time. I was always amazed by the Chick Corea demo song
I had also bought samples, waveform cards and memory expansions. But for more complex productions, the polyphony was simply too low. Some time ago, I loaded a few of my old SY99 projects and found that notes were often cut off (unfortunately, I often had this problem with SY99... I just searched for the mix of some SY99 projects and uploaded them to Soundcloud... there you can also hear the problem with the low polyphony).
Of course you can still use the SY today, but if you are honest, you can do more with any current wavetable synth?

Wavetable? Not quite, and with a plug-in you would be able to get rid of those polyphony problems (yes, I reckon they were a problem, especially when you are using the 4 element sounds, which I did a lot)

That's why I don't really have such a big need for an emulation. It might be interesting (for me) only to load old projects.

Exactly. You got the point But it would still be a great synth, especially with the ability to load your own samples, and mix them with FM. Yes, I know there are others that also do that, but still...

[Benutzername]

I was a long time owner of a SY77 and I still have many sounds and songs on disks. I'd really like to see a full emulation with the sequencer to check out these old files and of course for nostalgia reasons.

Would I use it for new stuff? I doubt it. The SYs are still nice synths but modern plugins like F'Em offer way more then the SYs ever did and they are way easier to use.

[4damind]

Of course, with such an old synthesizer you have the problem that parts break and you can't easily find replacements. In my case, for example, the floppy drive no longer works and the battery would have to be replaced.
If you really want to continue working with it, it becomes more complicated and possibly expensive.
There is a SY Manager and I mean there is also a tool to load T01 files. But if you have a complete emulation that can also read the SY files, that would not be a bad thing.

But as I said... from the possibilities and the sound I find the SY99 not so interesting. I turn it on from time to time for nostalgia, but not to use it in current productions.

[gentleclockdivider]

You want-use an sy-tg because you like the yamaha fm sound
While TRacktion F-em comes close and in some areas surpasses the sy-tg range ..the sound is totally different ..there is something magical about the yamaha sound using the lookuptables for sine generation
The only piece of software that gives me the yamaha FM sound is plogue ops , then I spend a whole day converting the sounds made on ops7 to my tg 77 .

[AIRA82]

Interesting open source project:

https://www.fiedler-audio.de/mf77-fm-sy ... wavetable/

Unfortunately no one developed it further.

Hopefully there will be a real emulation one day, i like the sound of the sy99.

[fmr]

Interesting open source project:

https://www.fiedler-audio.de/mf77-fm-sy ... wavetable/

Unfortunately no one developed it further.

Hopefully there will be a real emulation one day, i like the sound of the sy99.

This seems like a very close replica - the closest I've ever seen so far. I hope someone picks it where the original author left. In the meanwhile, I'm going to try it in my computer.

[ghettosynth]

The missing modules are DAV Chorus and DH* for many DH*, there are also many missing images. It's probably going to take more than just gathering up the modules to do any more work on this.

[fmr]

The missing modules are DAV Chorus and DH* for many DH*, there are also many missing images. It's probably going to take more than just gathering up the modules to do any more work on this.

Yeah, I got a lot of error messages, until I finally aborted loading. I don't get it - aren't the SynthEdit plug-ins supposedly coming with all the SEM modules embedded?

[ghettosynth]

The missing modules are DAV Chorus and DH* for many DH*, there are also many missing images. It's probably going to take more than just gathering up the modules to do any more work on this.

Yeah, I got a lot of error messages, until I finally aborted loading. I don't get it - aren't the SynthEdit plug-ins supposedly coming with all the SEM modules embedded?

No, those are almost certainly 3rd party modules. The bigger problem are the skins which are referenced under the synthedit install but not included in the downloads.

It will all eventually load into something that you can work with in SE 1.1, but it locked up 1.4, for me.

[RSL369]

It's working fine here, no loading errors, no missing components, all you have to do is include the contents of that other zip file below the main link. (the one named mf-77-quellen.zip)

The only issue I'm seeing is that it only has 5 or so presets, at least that's what Cubase sees. Not sure if I'm missing the rest somewhere on the main GUI, though.

http://u.pc.cd/1YKctalK

On his pics soundbanks are visible, I'm not seeing them here.

EDIT: found where to load the soundbanks, but it looks like they're not included in the package (at least I don't see where they are).

[ghettosynth]

It's working fine here, no loading errors, no missing components, all you have to do is include the contents of that other zip file below the main link. (the one named mf-77-quellen.zip)

The only issue I'm seeing is that it only has 5 or so presets, at least that's what Cubase sees. Not sure if I'm missing the rest somewhere on the main GUI, though.

http://u.pc.cd/1YKctalK

On his pics soundbanks are visible, I'm not seeing them here.

EDIT: found where to load the soundbanks, but it looks like they're not included in the package (at least I don't see where they are).

We're not talking about loading the .dll in a host, but loading the se1 files into SynthEdit. That said, the .dll won't load for me in Reaper.

[RSL369]

It's working fine here, no loading errors, no missing components, all you have to do is include the contents of that other zip file below the main link. (the one named mf-77-quellen.zip)

The only issue I'm seeing is that it only has 5 or so presets, at least that's what Cubase sees. Not sure if I'm missing the rest somewhere on the main GUI, though.

http://u.pc.cd/1YKctalK

On his pics soundbanks are visible, I'm not seeing them here.

EDIT: found where to load the soundbanks, but it looks like they're not included in the package (at least I don't see where they are).

We're not talking about loading the .dll in a host, but loading the se1 files into SynthEdit. That said, the .dll won't load for me in Reaper.

Oh, I see, thanks for clearing that up.
dll loading fine here in Cubase, but bridged with Jbridge.

[zerocrossing]

They want it to sound like an SY99 and not "let's just throw some samples out there and it will be good enough".

That’s not really what I said. I meant that you could pretty easily create very similar sounding samples from scratch. In other worlds, if there’s a piano sample, just find a similar Yamaha piano, or maybe the exact Yamaha piano, and just sample it. I’ve heard all those old Yamaha ROMs… I don’t think the magic of the SY99 is there, but more in the combination of FM and ROM.

Anyway, I don’t really care all that much if it ever happens. The Yamaha synths that I’m interested in having emulations of already exist to my satisfaction.

[ghettosynth]

The missing modules are DAV Chorus and DH* for many DH*, there are also many missing images. It's probably going to take more than just gathering up the modules to do any more work on this.

DAV Chorus is one of the Christian W-Budde modules. His site is long gone and only a few of the 7z files are in the wayback machine. I used to have them on disk somewhere, but I'm pretty certain their gone these days as I've really cut back on digital hoarding.

Best bet if someone wants to do anything with this is to use the core ideas to rebuild something. I doubt that it's worth the time, but then again, it's the kind of tedium that I avoid at all costs and yet some people seem to embrace.