Feedback Thread

[melantronica]

Had very nice experience with dyross

[branshen]

Purchased Dark Zebra from vatoz. It was an easy deal. Vatoz is a very responsive seller. We utilised wise for the payment transfer on his request and it was a painless and simple process. Thank you for the easy transaction.

[vatoz]

I sold a Dark Zebra to branshen. We used wise as I couldn't use Paypal and he was very understanding about it. Everything was very fast and smooth. Branshen is a great buyer.

[Milky-Joe]

I sold Synapse Obsession to neerav19. A painless transaction and a really nice guy! Would happily recommend.

[1234Jeri1234]

Bought Ujam Phat 2 from davestretch
great seller, smooth transaction

[1234Jeri1234]

Bought Ujam Rowdy 2 from Andrew189
great seller, smooth transaction

[vatoz]

I sold my diva to Akora. Akora found it quite understandable that I can't use Paypal due to my country, and he trade with me without any problem. Akora is a trustworthy buyer and does his job meticulously. By the way, u-he employees did a great job in this process.

[Andrew189]

I sold to 1234Jeri1234 Rowdy 2.
Very kind buyer, highly recommended

[1234Jeri1234]

Bought Ujam Dope from Dark Fiber,
Very great seller, great/fast communication

[Dark Fiber]

Bought Ujam Dope from Dark Fiber,
Very great seller, great/fast communication

Likewise, communicationwise

[codec_spurt]

Oh, and to top it off. I just got another sarcy shitty PM from vatoz. He/she has sold the plugin to someone else, with the exact same bank details, wouldn't you know?

He/she has not updated their ad. And unless that person bought the plugin in the last 3 minutes, then they didn't have the decency to tell me it had been sold, even after I asked them.

That smacks of a certain amount of malice to me, because I did ask, I was led to believe the plugin was still available, and I tried again to pay for it.

Why did you not have the decency to tell me the plugin was already sold, vatoz, after me explicitly asking you? You let me waste even more of my time, just because you thought you'd been wronged, you thought you would mess me about even further.

The ad in question:

viewtopic.php?p=8449847#p8449847

Now, how about that feedback you threatened to leave for me, for messing YOU about and wasting YOUR time?

Hi codec_spurt. The thing is briefly that you said you deposited the money through Wise and for some reason wise told me that you stopped the transfer. When you didn't text me, I said I couldn't sell you the diva. Also i said, I can't write anything about you in the feedback section because I don't know your intentions exactly. Better yet, I allow you to share correspondence. Let me share if you want. Also, I sold the Diva to Akora only. I could have sold it to you if I had bad intentions. Please consider the presumption of innocence when commenting. Sorry for my english.

Hi codec_spurt. The thing is briefly that you said you deposited the money through Wise and for some reason wise told me that you stopped the transfer. When you didn't text me, I said I couldn't sell you the diva.

This is a lie. I asked you explicitly if the plugin was still available. You led me on. I tried to pay for it again. Remember, I have screenshots with timelines that any Mod can see on request. Be very careful of what you say. This was a lie.


Also i said, I can't write anything about you in the feedback section because I don't know your intentions exactly. Better yet, I allow you to share correspondence. Let me share if you want.

This is disingenuous of you. You threatened me with leaving bad feedback. Again, the Mods are welcome to see what you wrote. I will give full disclosure of anything I wrote in reply to you.


Also, I sold the Diva to Akora only. I could have sold it to you if I had bad intentions. Please consider the presumption of innocence when commenting. Sorry for my english.

Your English was good enough to carry out a transaction of which I spent about 6 hours of my time. I just added it up. It wasn't 4/5 hours. Closer to 6 - nearly a whole day's work to deal with you.


Please consider the presumption of innocence when commenting.

No. You don't get out of it that easy. Not when you sent me such shitty sarcy comments, accusing me of canceling the deal, accusing me of messing you about, you not having the decency to tell me the plugin had already been sold, after I asked you, and with me then trying to pay for it again.

And all with a shitty sarcy f**k you at the end of it!



One thing is for sure, I won't ever attempt to use Wise again. And you are to blame for that. I had a failure to pay with them before and all with no reason. You now have my real name, my real email address and with access to my banking information. I'm not sure if this is a scam or not. You sold Diva once before me. Maybe you bought it again. Maybe you bought two copies and sold them both. I don't know.

But something seems very off about you vatoz. Other buyers can deal with you. Other buyers can use Wise Transfer. But this is my feedback about you and the 6 hours you wasted out of my life while I was dealing with the death of a family member.

I did not cancel the deal. I have the screenshots all the way from Wise about my payments to you. They paused it, not me. And after me spending that six hours with you, you just shat on my head like a little boy/girl having a tantrum.

You are a malicious person vatoz. It is extremely bad form to not tell someone a plugin has been sold when it already has, just so you can have a little 'ah ha up yours' at someone you think has wronged you.

A pleasant person would have said: Oh I'm sorry, your payment did not go through for whatever reason, so I sold to someone else.

A malicious person would have implied: oh so you canceled the deal - YOU WASTE MY TIME I'M GONNA LEAVE BAD FEEDBACK ABOUT YOU - yes the plugin is still available why don't you waste more time trying to pay for it?

I acted in good faith at every step. Mods are free to see every single message and every single screenshot of the official payment I made to you. You now have my real name, and you have the fact I have an official uhe account. I am not happy about this.

I don't think you are acting in good faith, vatoz. You are either very immature, or very spiteful, or downright malicious.

If I get the time I will make a thread here about the Wise Transfer method of payment. I could not find any when I searched. I took a chance on that, and got bit on the arse.

Once bitten, twice shy.

If you allow, I will share the messages. In this way, people can decide who is telling the truth. Do you accept?

If you allow, I will share the messages. In this way, people can decide who is telling the truth. Do you accept?


I just logged on tonight to see if there had been some resolution to this matter. But you are tripling down.

Ok.

I accept. Please publish every communication between us, I give you my permission.

Talk about taking the initiative. Do it. I dare you.


You sold your plugin. You wasted 6 hours out of my life that I will never get back, yet you act like the aggrieved party.

You talk big. You threaten a lot. But I bet you won't do what you say. I promise it. You will have an excuse.

Go on. Do it. I dare you.

[vatoz]

I want to end the discussion for myself. These are our messages with codec_spurt.

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:54 am
I'll buy Diva off you if you still have it. I have feedback. I also have a uhe account.
cheers.

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:02 pm
Hello, I still have Diva, but as I said, unfortunately I can't use Paypal, instead I use wise.

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:32 pm
Hi. I just got out of bed and need some breakfast. I'll look in to setting up a wise account, and if it's not too hard, I'll go for it. Do you have a link for any feedback in the meantime? Saves me searching. I'll get back to you in a couple of hours just to check Diva is still available, before I send any money.
cheers.

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:36 pm
I've set up a wise account. let me know if you still have Diva.
cheers.

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:42 pm
Yes Diva is still available. I can give you my wise account if you want.

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:43 pm
By the way, I have an idea about what the feedback link is, but you can search for my name. There were good reviews left over from last year.

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:52 pm
Yes, that would be good. It was 85 Euros, wasn't it?
I'll get my uhe account details ready for you as well

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:00 pm
Yes, 85 euros. I probably need to give your u-he mail and name to u-he for this. I think he transferred something from u-he before. So I guess you know that the process will take a few days.

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:06 pm
No problem. give me your payment details and I'll dig out my uhe info for you.

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:09 pm
Ok. May I know which country to send money from? I live in turkey. Not sure how it will be fastest. I have Euro-USD and TL account. Which one do you want?

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:29 pm
What is a TL account?
The Euro-USD account - is that the wise account?
I am sending from UK

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:35 pm
These are my bank accounts in wise. I opened a pound account, you can send the money to that account, now I'm giving you my information.

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:36 pm
I tried to find some feedback for you but couldn't find any.
Could you point me what feedback you have?
cheers.

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:37 pm
Account holder : Vatoz
Sort code : 23-14-70
Account number : 345244556
IBAN : GB50 TRWI 1114 3455 7688 05
Wise's address :
56 Shoreditch High Street
London
E1 6JJ
United Kingdom

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:39 pm
My feedback link:
search.php?keywords=vatoz&t=74467&sf=msgonly

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:42 pm
That's great. I'll pay 85 Euros in to that account if you give me details.

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:46 pm
My wise account details;
Account holder : Vatoz
Sort code : 23-14-70
Account number : 345244556
IBAN : GB50 TRWI 1114 3455 7688 05
Wise's address :
56 Shoreditch High Street
London
E1 6JJ
United Kingdom

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:08 pm
I just paid that to you. You should receive 85 Euros.
====================
Today at 8:02 pm
You set up your transfer
Today at 8:05 pm
We received your GBP
Your money's being processed
Tomorrow at 7:40 am
We pay out your EUR
Tomorrow at 12:40 pm
Vatoz receives your EUR
==============================
You can track the payment here:
https://wise.com/en/track/f6551d98bd514 ... neyTracker
Let me know when it clears for you and I'll give you my uhe account details. I think it's just the name and the email address.

vatoz:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:15 pm
I'm mailing u-he already, they'll be back by tomorrow anyway. I can get your information.

codec_spurt:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:44 pm
Cool.
Name: codec_spurt
email: crazy_boy@warpmail.net

vatoz:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:05 pm
Hi codec_spurt, I wonder if you may have paused the wise transfer? In the link you gave it says that the process has been paused.
https://wise.com/en/track/f6551d98bd514 ... neyTracker

vatoz:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:23 pm
Hello, I think you gave up on the deal. I wish you had told me before you gave up. You wouldn't be wasting my time. I won't write anything about you in the feedback thread because I don't know the reason. But I think his intentions are not good.

codec_spurt:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:44 pm
Hi Vatoz. I did not give up on the deal. I was being patient. This has been a real hassle and has taken up much of my time to set up. Feel free to give feedback. Then so will I. I logged on tonight expecting to maybe get the serial. But I see there has been a problem. Apologies. I will now log in and see what went wrong. To be clear I DID NOT PAUSE THE DEAL. There must be some mistake. I will go to the Wise payment now and see what went wrong. Is the plugin still available?
I am sorry for any confusion but it is not of my doing.

vatoz:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:54 pm
Thanks for the clarification, but I'm about to hire someone else for the plugin.

codec_spurt:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:59 pm
For some reason, Wise have paused the transfer. Not me!
Something was wrong with your bank details.
Image
I tried to go forward to try again to pay you. I then got this screen:
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As you can see, I only get so many options. I tried again.
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It will not allow me to go any further. So I can not pay you with the details you gave me. Wise do not accept them.
Is it possible you made a mistake in some of the information?
Something was wrong with vatoz's bank details
If you give me your details again, or an alternative, I will try one more time to pay you.

codec_spurt:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:03 am
Oh, Ok, 4/5 hours of my time wasted. Please leave some feedback for me. I've been buying plugins on this site for nearly 20 years and not had a single problem.

vatoz:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:11 am
Unfortunately I sold the diva to someone with the same wise information now and he sent his money. The money is now in my Wise account. But like you said, it might not have been because of you.I can't comment as I don't know exactly what's going on. Anyway, no problem for me, I'm sure it is for you too. By the way, don't send money for Diva .

codec_spurt:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:36 am
Just left some feedback for you.
I suggest you leave some feedback for me as well.

vatoz:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:56 am
I replied to your feedback. You can publish messages.

vatoz:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:36 am
Just left some feedback for you.
I suggest you leave some feedback for me as well.

[kidslow]

I still can't figure what exactly happened between you @vatoz & @codec_spurt even after scanning through your dirty laundry but it seems inappropriate to publish someone's bank information like that, but then I'm like did Vatoz just publish their own bank information? You two need to get a room.

[nonplussed_]

Purchased Arturia V Collection 8 from dyross

Excellent seller! Communicated well and even followed up to verify everything went smoothly.

[scarletdawn]

Bought the UVI Organic Keys expansion from cocoazenith. Speedy transaction. Would buy again.