KVR Audio

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:27 am

That's a forelast generation mid tier desktop CPU you are comparing to the current highest end of laptop CPU's.

The fact that it doesn't perform much worse proves what I wrote.

sir-haver · Post by **sir-haver** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:28 am

chk071 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:09 am I would also just go for it, if you don't have any budget limits or whatever. It looks like you want to be mobile, so, a desktop PC just won't fit. I'd just get a laptop with the HX then, as it seems to be about the best you can get in laptops at the moment.

astralprojection wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:14 am you dont seem to understand, that yesteryears premium desktops are todays laptops.
Let's put it like this: Laptops are yester-yester-yesteryears premium desktops. There's a lot between them.

That's unfortunately what the Mac guys don't get. Their M1 doesn't stand a chance against high end desktop CPU's. Obviously. But, "obvious" doesn't seem to be the Apple fans' forte.

Captain Obvious isn't a Mac user, that's for sure.

Thanks I think that's what I'll do(:

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think there's still a big difference between the M1 and the mobile i9, right? I mean the big advantage of the M1 is the power efficiency, but performance wise it doesn't come close

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:30 am

sir-haver wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:28 am Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think there's still a big difference between the M1 and the mobile i9, right? I mean the big advantage of the M1 is the power efficiency, but performance wise it doesn't come close

Yes, the power efficiency will be a lot better, as the CPU is ARM based. Performance wise, I'm sure the Intel will do better. Dunno though. Hard to compare when they don't run the same OS.

sir-haver · Post by **sir-haver** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:40 am

Thanks guys for all of your help!

astralprojection · Post by **astralprojection** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:47 am

chk071 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:27 am That's a forelast generation mid tier desktop CPU you are comparing to the current highest end of laptop CPU's.

The fact that it doesn't perform much worse proves what I wrote.

thats fair, i always thought the i5 x600k series to be a gamers wet budget dream, and whatever works in gaming certainly works for production, even using dozens of tracks at 192k.
so really i think we say the same thing but from different perspectives.
either way the 12900hx will make anyone happy for a very long time!

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:59 am

Yeah, I think so too.

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:26 pm

[edit]

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:14 pm

chk071 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:09 amThat's unfortunately what the Mac guys don't get. Their M1 doesn't stand a chance against high end desktop CPU's. Obviously. But, "obvious" doesn't seem to be the Apple fans' forte

"the Mac guys"? M1 is 2 years old tech. Obviously, recent tech is prone to be faster.

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:26 pm

the PC guy(s) in this case doesn't seem to grasp that Apple Silicon is actually high end, just for the mobile / laptop sector.

Try putting this 12900 into an iPad competitor, or an ultrabook and see how it will fare.
And i don't mean just performance wise, which surely will suck too as it will have to throttle like mad, but also battery life and noise floor because of the fan(s) and bulkiness, as it will also need a much bigger battery and more room for cooling in order to be not completely useless.

I'm sure this is going to be a hit and Apple is already shivering

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:35 pm

FapFilter wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:26 pmI'm sure this is going to be a hit and Apple is already shivering

definitely

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:43 pm

FapFilter wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:26 pm the PC guy(s) in this case doesn't seem to grasp that Apple Silicon is actually high end, just for the mobile / laptop sector.

I read in black and white here and elsewhere that some people think that the M1 was the fastest CPU ever.

Anyway, not relevant to this thread or the OP's decision.

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:59 pm

chk071 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:43 pmI read in black and white here and elsewhere that some people think that the M1 was the fastest CPU ever.

It was. At the day it was released and for some months after that.
If raw speed is concerned, it was overtaken. performance per wattage, though.... nah. still on top. way on top

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:00 pm

sQeetz wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:59 pm
chk071 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:43 pmI read in black and white here and elsewhere that some people think that the M1 was the fastest CPU ever.
It was. At the day it was released and for some months after that.

No.

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:01 pm

chk071 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:43 pm Anyway, not relevant to this thread or the OP's decision.

indeed. It was you, though, who pulled the Apple card.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:03 pm

Yeah, I did. Was obvious because of the discussion about mobile and desktop CPU's.

Intel Core i9-12900HX - anyone tried it?