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ghostwhistler wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:51 pm So I decided to pick this up as it is pretty incredible.

It'll take time to figure out, but I don't think it is desperately decipherable. However, the sequencer layout is kinda weird.

Does each of the inputs (the connection points along the top) pertain to a separate instance of the sequencer? IE, can i only set 4 sequencer points per source? For example, if I want to modulate the cutoff on filter 1, do i connect, eg, the first point, and use those sequences?

How does the dial work? I can't wrap my head around that at all. It seems to allow modulation between each of the sequencer inputs, but I can't figure out how it works.
It's four 4-step sequencers you can chain into a longer sequence.
Or one 16-step sequencer you can separate into short ones.

The outputs act as switches for length.
4+4+4+4
4+4+8 / 4+8+4 / 8+4+4
4+12 / 12+4
8+8
16

When separated, they can have different rates. They are set by
the number next to the output.

Step values are stored in a bunch of presets. Mutate knob interpolates
between adjacent ones.
Brzzzzzzt.

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Blogbert wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:14 pm In my view, this default "morphing" behaviour is quite useless, so I would like to see a "quantize" button (i.e., a "normal sequencer" button) next to the rotate knob, that would make the "rotate" knob cycle through each "snapshot" one at a time instead of morphing.
Where the morphing shines for me is when using the Sequencer as an Osc (which sounds gorgeous). I have lots of presets where the Sequencer is the only sound source (usually going into a filter).

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Blogbert wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:14 pmSo, you want the signal modulating the "rotate" knob to look like a staircase, and you want each step in the staircase to last exactly the same length of time as a "snapshot" of 16 steps in the sequence. You can use any signal, but an LFO makes the most sense, because it can synchronise with the host tempo. There is no LFO shape that looks like a staircase, so you have to use a ramp shape. To turn a ramp into a staircase, you have to quantize it (using the "quantizer). Adjust the quantization to turn the ramp into a set of eight steps, and voila! This is as close as you can get to making the sequencer play through each snapshot sequentially. In my experience, it doesn't really work -- perhaps due to a glitch in Bazille's LFOs, or perhaps due to some setting I have got wrong.
I've never tried 8 individual 16 step sequences... too much work. :hihi:

A square LFO (unipolar mode) works reliably to switch between 2 sequences. If you adjust the timing of the LFO to offset from the Sequencer timing, you can get long sequences that way.

Also, switch between 2 Sequencer snapshots using the LFO through the Lag Generator makes some nice pitch bend (morphing) when using the Sequencer to modulate Osc pitch.

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nusound mind wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:30 pm Shout out to pdxindy for recommending (ceaselessly at KVR it seems haha) Bazille.
and not just on KVR! :lol:

Glad to hear you are liking Bazille. I have a whole studio full of great hardware and if I had to choose only 1 synth, hardware or software, it would be Bazille!

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One thing I could do with help with is figuring how to program triplets or odd times into the delay. I figured if you set it to divisions of 3 that would work, but that's not the case. The manual says integers are 16th notes, but I don't really understand how that relates to the time signature I want

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ghostwhistler wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:45 am One thing I could do with help with is figuring how to program triplets or odd times into the delay. I figured if you set it to divisions of 3 that would work, but that's not the case. The manual says integers are 16th notes, but I don't really understand how that relates to the time signature I want
You get triplets by using multiples of 1.33

1.33 = 8th note triplets
2.67 = 4th note triplets
4.00 = 4th notes
5.33 = 1/2 note triplets

(I don't know the official names of note lengths. I just used the labels from my DAW.)

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Blogbert wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:16 pm
ghostwhistler wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:45 am One thing I could do with help with is figuring how to program triplets or odd times into the delay. I figured if you set it to divisions of 3 that would work, but that's not the case. The manual says integers are 16th notes, but I don't really understand how that relates to the time signature I want
You get triplets by using multiples of 1.33

1.33 = 8th note triplets
2.67 = 4th note triplets
4.00 = 4th notes
5.33 = 1/2 note triplets

(I don't know the official names of note lengths. I just used the labels from my DAW.)
Thank you

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So this is a lot of fun to use, but there are a couple of things I could do with understanding better. I won't start a new thread though.

One of them is to do with the LFOs. If I want to set the LFO to control, for example, the amount of PD on Oscillator 1, how do i do that in respect of a slower fade in? If i set the LFO to a slow rate, 1 bar or more, I don't hear anything. It seems like there's a retrigger issue, such that I don't hear the effect because the LFO cycle triggers with the notes pressed. I can get the same effect by routing it to the Mod wheel instead of course, but if I want that for something else I'll have to rely on automation. Can I do this?

Does that even make sense?

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ghostwhistler wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:13 am So this is a lot of fun to use, but there are a couple of things I could do with understanding better. I won't start a new thread though.

One of them is to do with the LFOs. If I want to set the LFO to control, for example, the amount of PD on Oscillator 1, how do i do that in respect of a slower fade in? If i set the LFO to a slow rate, 1 bar or more, I don't hear anything. It seems like there's a retrigger issue, such that I don't hear the effect because the LFO cycle triggers with the notes pressed. I can get the same effect by routing it to the Mod wheel instead of course, but if I want that for something else I'll have to rely on automation. Can I do this?

Does that even make sense?
The LFO's default to 'Gate', which is per voice and will re-trigger with each note. Try Sync... then the LFO will not re-trigger.

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Blogbert wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:14 pmThere is no LFO shape that looks like a staircase, so you have to use a ramp shape. To turn a ramp into a staircase, you have to quantize it (using the "quantizer). Adjust the quantization to turn the ramp into a set of eight steps, and voila! This is as close as you can get to making the sequencer play through each snapshot sequentially.
Besides the LFO -> Quantizer, you can also use the Mapping Generator. Set the Mapping Generator to 8 steps (if you want to cycle through the 8 snapshots), Mode to Map Quantize and Source to say LFO1 Tri (adjusted to be a ramp up). Then draw your staircase in the mapping generator. It just has to be close. Then Control-click on the mapping generator and use the Quantize 8 option.

This is more flexible than the Quantizer cause you can set each step where you want or add more steps. So you can set the Snapshot Morph to different patterns like 1 - 2 - 1 - 3 - 1 - 4 or whatever you want.

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Here is a Bazille sound I was just working on...

https://dandelionaudio.com/sound/B-Seq-3.mp3

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i'd be curious to share my presets and see what ppl thought, but I don't know how to do that

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pdxindy wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:08 pm
ghostwhistler wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:13 am So this is a lot of fun to use, but there are a couple of things I could do with understanding better. I won't start a new thread though.

One of them is to do with the LFOs. If I want to set the LFO to control, for example, the amount of PD on Oscillator 1, how do i do that in respect of a slower fade in? If i set the LFO to a slow rate, 1 bar or more, I don't hear anything. It seems like there's a retrigger issue, such that I don't hear the effect because the LFO cycle triggers with the notes pressed. I can get the same effect by routing it to the Mod wheel instead of course, but if I want that for something else I'll have to rely on automation. Can I do this?

Does that even make sense?
The LFO's default to 'Gate', which is per voice and will re-trigger with each note. Try Sync... then the LFO will not re-trigger.
Thanks

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Yeah me too
ghostwhistler wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:17 pm i'd be curious to share my presets and see what ppl thought, but I don't know how to do that

Yeah me too.
Should be easy as sharing the files. They will be located in the Bazille data folder. I think its in appdata/roaming on Windows
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Scrubbing Monkeys wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:29 pm

Yeah me too
ghostwhistler wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:17 pm i'd be curious to share my presets and see what ppl thought, but I don't know how to do that

Yeah me too.
Should be easy as sharing the files. They will be located in the Bazille data folder. I think its in appdata/roaming on Windows
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/64p490d1ypej ... WLnza?dl=0

Bonus Repro presets as well :D

Hopefully that works and is secure. Don't want peeps hacking my awesome files.


Also, another issue:

For example, I have osc 4 set to Hertz and its modulating the cutoff for filter 1. I want to be able to modulate the Hertz rate, but I can't see anywhere to connect it to a mod source, such as the Mod wheel. I could use automation just fine, but is there a way 'in house' to do it?

Thanks

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