Zebra 3 and Zebra Legacy

[Urs]

I expect Zebra3 to initially have fewer features than Zebra2. I expect them to be more consistent though.

As for Zebrify, I'm not so sure we need it if we manage to implement audio input for synths (one reason for our CLAP support thing)

[krraqk]

I expect Zebra3 to initially have fewer features than Zebra2. I expect them to be more consistent though.

With that you mean that you abandon the amazing guitar synth feature?
We will loss the Input module?

As for Zebrify, I'm not so sure we need it if we manage to implement audio input for synths (one reason for our CLAP support thing)

With this feature Zebra 3 would manage audio input to control the synth or only to route the audio in a simple form?

[amordechai]

Are we going to be able to open Zebra2 or ZebraHZ presets with Zebra 3 once it's released?

[Urs]

I expect Zebra3 to initially have fewer features than Zebra2. I expect them to be more consistent though.

With that you mean that you abandon the amazing guitar synth feature?
We will loss the Input module?

Initially, certainly. You won't lose Zebrify 2.9 of course.

We might bring it back in a 3.0 flavour later, but if we need to have Zebra3 and Zebrify V3 from the beginning, I'm afraid we'll have too much on our plates to ever get this done.

[Urs]

Are we going to be able to open Zebra2 or ZebraHZ presets with Zebra 3 once it's released?

No. That's why we continue Zebra2 maintenance. Hence, this thread.

[amordechai]

Are we going to be able to open Zebra2 or ZebraHZ presets with Zebra 3 once it's released?

No. That's why we continue Zebra2 maintenance. Hence, this thread.

Thank you for the quick answer. Have a great day.

[Sound Author]

I like the idea of "rebooting" Zebra with a new framework and fresh ideas. Simply tacking on new features to a preexisting synth might not always be the best way to go. I know there are more technical reasons Z3 is getting this refit, but from a creative viewpoint, I think it's never a bad thing to approach something with a fresh perspective. So, I'm totally okay with Z3 not having every bell and whistle that Z2 has right out of the gate. Just as long as it presents some really exciting NEW things for us to play with while additional features arrive later on. Personally, I'm just excited for a single oscillator in Zebrallete 3.

[TENETfanboy]

I expect Zebra3 to initially have fewer features than Zebra2. I expect them to be more consistent though.

With that you mean that you abandon the amazing guitar synth feature?
We will loss the Input module?

Initially, certainly. You won't lose Zebrify 2.9 of course.

We might bring it back in a 3.0 flavour later, but if we need to have Zebra3 and Zebrify V3 from the beginning, I'm afraid we'll have too much on our plates to ever get this done.

That’s what I assumed and that’s totally fine with me!! Zebra 3 is certainly most important, and if there’s a demand for Zebrify 3 later on then great, but I don’t want it to impede on the initial progress of Zebra 3 and it’s release

[MorpherX]

Will Zebralette 3 and Zebra 3 be only in "Clap" pluginformat or also in VST 2.4 and VST 3 ?
I personally don't use VST 3.

[Urs]

Will Zebralette 3 and Zebra 3 be only in "Clap" pluginformat or also in VST 2.4 and VST 3 ?
I personally don't use VST 3.

I can not say yet exactly how we'll do it. But I'm sure we'll have AU/VST2/3 support. Very likely in the form of a CLAP-as-XXX wrapper/adapter.

[u-u-u]

As for Zebrify, I'm not so sure we need it if we manage to implement audio input for synths (one reason for our CLAP support thing)

You also could provide multiple "versions" via the CLAP plugin factory. But maybe it's more manageable if everything is inside one device.

[Shiek927]

Urs has said in the past that it's better to start with a relatively smaller synth and grow the synth feature set organically as time goes by. It makes sense since time and user-feedback might lead to all sorts of experimentation and ideas that wasn't previously planned or thought up. Zebra2 grew immensely from how it started when it was first released and I'm sure there's every expectation that Zebra3 will have as long of a lifespan.

[robisme]

What I read makes me think that Zebra 3 will actually be a completely different synth. I mean : Isn't it time to give birth to "Zebu 1" ?

[NAD]

I know this is not the best place for FRs but life's short and I'm always overthinking everything so what the hell...

Urs, would you perhaps consider for Z3 making an easy way to link envelope decay and release? You can link the parameters in Reaper which I find myself doing quite often with the sustain all the way down (for bells, plucks, percussion...) but it's a bit of a cumbersome and inflexible workaround.

And while we're on the topic of envelopes, how about getting a hold parameter that comes between the attack and decay phases? Could be one of the options for the assignable knob on the left. (I realize you can sort of use Sust2 to get the same effect but it's not exactly the same ergonomically.)

We should really bring back the Z3 FR thread even if it's just for us manic KVR junkies to blather on at each other about things that will never happen...

[Tj Shredder]

Much more important is a peak value for the attack phase. That way I can have a soft attack (controlled by velocity) and swell the sound louder than that peak (controlled by aftertouch)… Which is impossible with the standard ADSR. If I can have curves for the attacks and decays, there is little need for a hold… The 4 stage envelopes of a DX7 could do this including a hold in 1984 already, but we are still tortured with ADSRs in the majority of synths…