Zebra 3 and Zebra Legacy
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- KVRian
- 929 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida
It might seem that way at first, but that's not the case. Zebra 3 has been coded with a completely new framework from the ground up, so it's not as simple as adding some new features to a preexisting set of features. It will take time to include all of that flexibility. And that's fine. What really matters is that Z3's oscillators give us something new and exciting to have fun with as additional features and flexibility are added with updates. And we will still have Z2, which will still be supported, so it's not like we've lost anything.
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- KVRist
- 448 posts since 18 Nov, 2002
Was said that zebrify would integrate in Zebra3 but now we have that. It´s not a good thing at least to evolve the guitar synth and audio driven synth niche and capabilities that where present in Z2.Urs wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:49 pmInitially, certainly. You won't lose Zebrify 2.9 of course.
We might bring it back in a 3.0 flavour later, but if we need to have Zebra3 and Zebrify V3 from the beginning, I'm afraid we'll have too much on our plates to ever get this done.
I think many people dont realize how interesting are the sonic possibilities that this approach can provide.
Zebra was the only big synth with this door open and now it seems to close. Thats sad news.
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- KVRAF
- 8237 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
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- KVRAF
- 3611 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy
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- KVRAF
- 2770 posts since 3 Dec, 2006
Nope... I already have Zebra +the Hz... I just stated my observation... The bar is already High in the Uhe Pedigree of Stable Synths and 12 years feels like a long time in terms of expectations. .. Then Again I think that Urs Deflatory comment might have one of those .. pressure-releaving-lower-all and everyones-expectations ...... AAAAND THEN BLOW THE SOCKS OFFF AT release!! and everybody Salutes Urs as a Synth Hero ( which in most ways he is!)
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- KVRAF
- 2770 posts since 3 Dec, 2006
Lol!! No.. lets make the world a better place!
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- KVRist
- 228 posts since 14 Jun, 2020 from Adelaide, Australia
Quantity versus quality...
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- KVRian
- 929 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida
"The trouble begins with a design philosophy that equates 'more options' with 'greater freedom'."
-- Brian Eno
I love Zebra 2 with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns, but as much as it pains me to say it, in some ways, Zebra 2 might be flexible to a fault. I quite like the idea of reimagining Zebra from the ground up and streamlining the feature set to provide the most fluid workflow...while at the same time maintaining the same standard of flexibility.
Sure, a lot of the same features will eventually resurface, but if there's ever a design concept that will give us more control with less actual "controls", I will happily embrace a more elegant design that lets ideas flow rather than stumbling through a labyrinth of options that tend to restrict the flow of ideas. Sometimes less truly is more, which is why I still enjoy the simplicity of Zebralette.
Of course, I'm not suggesting that Z3 should be that stripped down. Zebra has always been a "workhorse" and should live up to that reputation with increased flexibility. But if there's any room for minimalism here and there in the development process, I'm all for it.
-- Brian Eno
I love Zebra 2 with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns, but as much as it pains me to say it, in some ways, Zebra 2 might be flexible to a fault. I quite like the idea of reimagining Zebra from the ground up and streamlining the feature set to provide the most fluid workflow...while at the same time maintaining the same standard of flexibility.
Sure, a lot of the same features will eventually resurface, but if there's ever a design concept that will give us more control with less actual "controls", I will happily embrace a more elegant design that lets ideas flow rather than stumbling through a labyrinth of options that tend to restrict the flow of ideas. Sometimes less truly is more, which is why I still enjoy the simplicity of Zebralette.
Of course, I'm not suggesting that Z3 should be that stripped down. Zebra has always been a "workhorse" and should live up to that reputation with increased flexibility. But if there's any room for minimalism here and there in the development process, I'm all for it.
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- KVRAF
- 2770 posts since 3 Dec, 2006
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- KVRist
- 91 posts since 29 Apr, 2022
I’d imagine Hans has had some suggestions, after all there’s a new version of ZebraHZ that they made just for Dune that only he has, so I wouldn’t doubt at all that he’s put in some requestsHcDoom wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:06 pm Is Hans Zimmer (as Zebra 2 power user) involved in any kind in Zebra 3 development suggestions wise - sound of the filters, possible effects, GUI, something else?
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- KVRian
- 929 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida
This has probably been discussed on this thread already, but I'm wondering if we will get the spectral oscillator effects right out of the gate. For whatever reason, I hardly ever used them in the past, but I'm finally starting to use them a lot more these days. They really are very useful.
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- KVRAF
- 1625 posts since 28 Jan, 2004
To me a long time as well to grasp their usefulness and I still use probably just a fraction of them. Which of them are you using and for what?Sound Author wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:08 am This has probably been discussed on this thread already, but I'm wondering if we will get the spectral oscillator effects right out of the gate. For whatever reason, I hardly ever used them in the past, but I'm finally starting to use them a lot more these days. They really are very useful.
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30192 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Hehehe, I can't really answer to feature questions at this point. I'll be happy to show oscillators soon (when Zebralette 3 gets out).
But yes, Zebra 3 will have a comprehensive collection of OscFX from the beginning. Like in Z2, they are not just spectral.
But yes, Zebra 3 will have a comprehensive collection of OscFX from the beginning. Like in Z2, they are not just spectral.
Some of our concepts align with his requests that he has sent over the years. But he's not directly involved.HcDoom wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:06 pm Is Hans Zimmer (as Zebra 2 power user) involved in any kind in Zebra 3 development suggestions wise - sound of the filters, possible effects, GUI, something else?