lots of things seem weird to many people.rubez wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:29 pm Conventional wisdom says analogue is for the job.
But warming a digital VST synth up with a digital saturation plug-in seems weird.
Is it possible? How does it fare compared to analogue saturation or distortion hardware?
Can you ever "warm" something up with digital?
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the timer is digitalmixyguy2 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:58 amConventional for who? Turnips?
"Digital = cold" is one of the dumbest things about making music I've ever heard.
Best post in the whole thread, even if it's technically not true.![]()
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like jackfruit.ATS wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:42 amlots of things seem weird to many people.rubez wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:29 pm Conventional wisdom says analogue is for the job.
But warming a digital VST synth up with a digital saturation plug-in seems weird.
Is it possible? How does it fare compared to analogue saturation or distortion hardware?![]()
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- 3714 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
This #thread went Bananas pretty Quick.vurt wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:26 pmlike jackfruit.ATS wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:42 amlots of things seem weird to many people.rubez wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:29 pm Conventional wisdom says analogue is for the job.
But warming a digital VST synth up with a digital saturation plug-in seems weird.
Is it possible? How does it fare compared to analogue saturation or distortion hardware?![]()
With that said, I like Bananas.
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you failed science class?mixyguy2 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:07 amomg lmaorod_zero wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:18 pm Whatever "warm" means if it a physical phenomena it should be possible to measure it and then simulate it.
If you can't measure it with tools that are more sensible that the human ear, which is quite limited, then it is magic aka no evidence that it exists.
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- KVRian
- 1370 posts since 2 Mar, 2018
More like you failed life. lol @ "if it can't be measured with a tool, it doesn't exist."rod_zero wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:20 pmyou failed science class?mixyguy2 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:07 amomg lmaorod_zero wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:18 pm Whatever "warm" means if it a physical phenomena it should be possible to measure it and then simulate it.
If you can't measure it with tools that are more sensible that the human ear, which is quite limited, then it is magic aka no evidence that it exists.
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- 3714 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Best for cold 'digital' synths might be to just put them into the Oven.
https://hendyamps.com/the-oven
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- 681 posts since 1 Jan, 2018
Yes, it's true that there are things that exist only as feelings or ideas. But physical phenomena exist independently of what is in one's head. If someone can consistently distinguish between two sound sources in a blind A/B test, they are discerning a physical phenomenon, which can be measured.mixyguy2 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:47 pmMore like you failed life. lol @ "if it can't be measured with a tool, it doesn't exist."rod_zero wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:20 pmyou failed science class?mixyguy2 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:07 amomg lmaorod_zero wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:18 pm Whatever "warm" means if it a physical phenomena it should be possible to measure it and then simulate it.
If you can't measure it with tools that are more sensible that the human ear, which is quite limited, then it is magic aka no evidence that it exists.
If you are arguing that no device exists that can make that measurement, that's one thing. If you're saying that it's impossible, you're just mystifying. It's a "God of the gaps" kind of argument at that point.
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- 3714 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
We should start talking about Shannon Nyquist Sampling Theorem now.
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- 2473 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
No.hebex wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:16 am You can polish and massage a turd as warm as you want. It still will be a turd.
It will be a warm turd.
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? 
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- KVRian
- 1099 posts since 9 Aug, 2018
Noise (saturation, distortion, etc,), instability (resembling pseudorandom modulation), compression, EQ (notably filtering). There is your “warmth”.
These are all available tools in the digital realm, not surprisingly.
These are all available tools in the digital realm, not surprisingly.
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- 3714 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Programing fluctuations & some instabilities in the first place does indeed help a lot. Yet, we should also talk about how to use non - linearities and bandwidth here.
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