Sustaining midi notes that cross the loop points

[radegeg135]

Hey,
How can I put/sustain a note outside of the boundaries of the track in a looped midi track in Waveform as explained in these two videos below (in Ableton live)?
I'm using Waveform Free 11 and seems like when I try to drag/stretch a note past the track boundaries it just cuts/ends it at the loop point and doesn't go or sustain it any further. I don't mind if I can achieve the same result in another way.




Thanks

[Dark Lane]

I've not tested this but from memory, it's not possible to extend a note duration beyond the end of the loop. So the simple and probably only option is to extend/rearrange your loop to allow sufficient time after the note hit for the full duration.

This is particularly important if you render to audio at any point as any reverb/delay must be included in the audio loop and you will cut it off if you don't allow a few bars at the end depending on the level of reverb

[Watchful]

The point of a looped clip is to repeat, not sustain past it. A quick work around would be to create a new clip with just the sustained note and drag it over the looped clip. Position its start point where you want it relative to the looped clip below it.

[radegeg135]

I've not tested this but from memory, it's not possible to extend a note duration beyond the end of the loop. So the simple and probably only option is to extend/rearrange your loop to allow sufficient time after the note hit for the full duration.

This is particularly important if you render to audio at any point as any reverb/delay must be included in the audio loop and you will cut it off if you don't allow a few bars at the end depending on the level of reverb

The point of a looped clip is to repeat, not sustain past it. A quick work around would be to create a new clip with just the sustained note and drag it over the looped clip. Position its start point where you want it relative to the looped clip below it.

I can't believe Waveform really doesn't have this feature! This is one of my first compositions and I face this simple issue without a simple solution like the one Ableton Live offers which is actually the first thing that came to my mind as well, so it's what makes a program user-friendly I guess?!
I guess this could be a useful nice little feature that they can add to Waveform.
Yeah, I came up with the idea of making two separate midi clips on top of each other as you suggested too and it works. I don't know what type of other problems it's gonna cause later tho...
But here is the track, as you can see every note starts 1/2 beat before the other one ends and it applies to the last and the first notes in the clip as well.
In the red, we have one single clip where D5 cannot go past the loop point and make what I want possible.
And in the orange is the two clips solution with D5 on a separate clip (both looped) and it works as expected.
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And it's gonna be longer than this, that's why I need loops.
I also want to have a note sustain for like a minute or so and I think I just have to stretch it a minute long, and there is not a better way of doing it, right? (I miss these smileys since 10 years ago when I used to use them on the forums)
But thank you guys anyways, and good luck!

[dysjoint]

If you have your melody finalised you can copy and paste instead of loop, select all the clips and 'merge midi clips' and then extend the overlapping notes. You can't go back and edit the repeating/looping parts very efficiently though. You can also create a second clip on a second track, output it to the first track and place any notes that don't fit in the loop here. That way you keep the looped part for later editing. (If you don't want all those clips on top of each other on the one track) Bit of an annoying workaround.

[jabe]

It's always going to be a problem sustaining MIDI notes into the beginning of a loop or out of the end of a loop. It's inherent in MIDI's Note On / Note Off system.