How to invert phase in Waveform 12 ?

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Peter Widdicombe wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:50 am You just have to watch what you really want. Setting on the clip FX is ONLY for the clip, and not the track - so if you have multiple non-copied clips, you might have some inverted and some not; while the TRACK setting one on the volume control will be for all clips in the track.
Dude -THANK YOU for this. Makes so much sense now that I look back on things -I was using the FX setting method and I wasn't getting a flipped waveform. i was listening and couldn't even tell the difference -The ONLY way to flip the polarity of the entire track is to go into the volume plugin and check the little box... Really appreciate you saying this. Didn't fully click until now. Thanks, again...

By the way -What is a "clip"?? I only think of sound in terms of waveforms... Never came across this "clip" until I started with Tracktion Waveform...

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Clips aren't unique to Waveform, but I understand most DAWs don't have them.

A clip is a chunk of music (MIDI or audio) that's placed on a track. It's the colored rectangle that appears on your tracks.

Waveform lets you choose what type of audio you'll be working with on any given track, as opposed to some DAWs which make you choose what type of track it is.

A clip, in Waveform, is created by the red "+" symbol in the upper right corner. Drag this icon onto a track, and you're creating a clip. Waveform will ask you what type of clip you want:

1. Audio clip - used for working with recorded, digital audio
2. Edit clip - like audio clips, but used for comparing different takes. I don't use these; not sure if anyone does or how they do
3. MIDI clip - used for MIDI notation and soft synths
4. Step clip - used for creating sequenced tracks like drum tracks or bass lines

(Some of us have been asking for a fifth type--an automation clip--to reuse pitch bends, mod wheels, or other controller information)

A track can be composed of one long clip (as if you imported or recorded an entire performance), or composed of multiple clips all in a row, maybe with gaps of silence in between.

Clips are great because you can drag them from track to track, apply effects to one or more, loop individual parts for just a bar or two, and more. They can also be saved as presets, which is something I do for control information to reset pitch bends or mod wheel events, or even specific drum patterns I might reuse from time to time.
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Yeah, clips are "chunks" of audio or MIDI that you can "play with" if you like. This includes splitting and creating copies of... So if you happen to record something, and realize that ONE TIME you did a perfect take and want to use that 4- or 8-bar chunk "over and over" you can SPLIT that clip start and end (your former single clip will now be 3 sequential ones), and you can then take that good take, and replicate it either within the same track, or copy it to another track over and over again where that part is. Or you can cut out a bad 4 bars and drag a copy of the good one to fill its place... (There are other ways of accomplishing this as well).

The waveform demo pieces make heavy use of this, where you see little recorded blocks repeated through the piece, and these sound like they were single takes that were copied.

If it happens to be a drum section, click the L, and then drag the little > at the top right, further - even to the end of the piece. I do this as a replacement for the click track, while I add everything else. Then go back and "correct" the drum track with the appropriate fills, etc. for verse chorus, etc.
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Peter Widdicombe wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:23 pm Yeah, clips are "chunks" of audio or MIDI that you can "play with" if you like. This includes splitting and creating copies of... So if you happen to record something, and realize that ONE TIME you did a perfect take and want to use that 4- or 8-bar chunk "over and over" you can SPLIT that clip start and end (your former single clip will now be 3 sequential ones), and you can then take that good take, and replicate it either within the same track, or copy it to another track over and over again where that part is. Or you can cut out a bad 4 bars and drag a copy of the good one to fill its place... (There are other ways of accomplishing this as well).

The waveform demo pieces make heavy use of this, where you see little recorded blocks repeated through the piece, and these sound like they were single takes that were copied.

If it happens to be a drum section, click the L, and then drag the little > at the top right, further - even to the end of the piece. I do this as a replacement for the click track, while I add everything else. Then go back and "correct" the drum track with the appropriate fills, etc. for verse chorus, etc.
I'm gonna have to spend some time with this... Hmm... ALright, thanks!!

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tmaworks wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:19 pm
Peter Widdicombe wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:23 pm Yeah, clips are "chunks" of audio or MIDI that you can "play with" if you like. This includes splitting and creating copies of... So if you happen to record something, and realize that ONE TIME you did a perfect take and want to use that 4- or 8-bar chunk "over and over" you can SPLIT that clip start and end (your former single clip will now be 3 sequential ones), and you can then take that good take, and replicate it either within the same track, or copy it to another track over and over again where that part is. Or you can cut out a bad 4 bars and drag a copy of the good one to fill its place... (There are other ways of accomplishing this as well).

The waveform demo pieces make heavy use of this, where you see little recorded blocks repeated through the piece, and these sound like they were single takes that were copied.

If it happens to be a drum section, click the L, and then drag the little > at the top right, further - even to the end of the piece. I do this as a replacement for the click track, while I add everything else. Then go back and "correct" the drum track with the appropriate fills, etc. for verse chorus, etc.
I'm gonna have to re-read this another 3-4 times before i can really grasp it. Ha! All my productions are super simple, but I know knowing this type of stuff could be beneficial for me...

Thanks for the explanation!!

I'm gonna have to spend some time with this... Hmm... ALright, thanks!!

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To be aware of though... When the clip ends, it will effectively cut off audio generated, unless it happens to be in an echo or reverb plug and dying down.

MIDI clips do similar things, so the VST is then effectively shut down; so cutting mid-note (or a VST with a long decay) may not behave exactly as you want/expect; as it has effectively completed at the end of the clip; unless you copy the clip several times and then MERGE the MIDI clips in that track so they aren't "finished" just yet; but carry on in the newly-merged clip as though performed that way.
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Peter Widdicombe wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:04 am To be aware of though... When the clip ends, it will effectively cut off audio generated, unless it happens to be in an echo or reverb plug and dying down.

MIDI clips do similar things, so the VST is then effectively shut down; so cutting mid-note (or a VST with a long decay) may not behave exactly as you want/expect; as it has effectively completed at the end of the clip; unless you copy the clip several times and then MERGE the MIDI clips in that track so they aren't "finished" just yet; but carry on in the newly-merged clip as though performed that way.
Any videos on this? For some reason, this whole "Clips" thing has me a little confused. I'm sure it's simpler than I'm making it out to be...

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Bill has some great short videos - surprisingly I couldn't easily find one specific to clips, but the Arranger does essentially the same system but across all tracks, which in many cases is even more useful.

https://youtu.be/BpDULInQVpI?list=PLnhV ... z_Wl8DfEZm

PS - if you have a few hours, highly recommend watching a few of these. I learn or something new about Waveform every time ! Nicely organized with titles; and most will tend to provide useful information in "related" topics as well.
https://www.tracktion.com/training/videos
Waveform 13; Win10 desktop/8 Gig; Win11 Laptop; MPK261; VFX+disfunctional ESQ-1

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Coincidentally, this recent video gets into clip FX and things you can do with them in Waveform.
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Peter Widdicombe wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:09 pm Bill has some great short videos - surprisingly I couldn't easily find one specific to clips, but the Arranger does essentially the same system but across all tracks, which in many cases is even more useful.

https://youtu.be/BpDULInQVpI?list=PLnhV ... z_Wl8DfEZm

PS - if you have a few hours, highly recommend watching a few of these. I learn or something new about Waveform every time ! Nicely organized with titles; and most will tend to provide useful information in "related" topics as well.
https://www.tracktion.com/training/videos
Didn't see the update for this post! Applogies for late respose!

I will absolutely watch!

Thank you!!

The more I use Waveform, the more I gain an appreciation for it!! Sucks that some of my sweet, old plugins from Reaper won't work, but I mean, I can get around that... There's no way to get all those to work, is there??

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Watchful wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:04 pm

Coincidentally, this recent video gets into clip FX and things you can do with them in Waveform.
Didn't see that I was updated on this post! Apologies for the late response!

I will absolutely watch!

Thank you!

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tmaworks wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:54 pm The more I use Waveform, the more I gain an appreciation for it!! Sucks that some of my sweet, old plugins from Reaper won't work, but I mean, I can get around that... There's no way to get all those to work, is there??
You might get them all to work! If they're all 64-bit and .vst format.

You can obtain them for free right here: https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/#:~:text ... or%20free!

Generally speaking, the older the plug-in is, the riskier it can be. Waveform is extremely strict about the .vst standards, and many programmers are not. However, I think at one point or another, I've had the Reaper plugins load and work just fine in Waveform as they've got solid programmers there.
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Watchful wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:14 pm
tmaworks wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:54 pm The more I use Waveform, the more I gain an appreciation for it!! Sucks that some of my sweet, old plugins from Reaper won't work, but I mean, I can get around that... There's no way to get all those to work, is there??
You might get them all to work! If they're all 64-bit and .vst format.

You can obtain them for free right here: https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/#:~:text ... or%20free!

Generally speaking, the older the plug-in is, the riskier it can be. Waveform is extremely strict about the .vst standards, and many programmers are not. However, I think at one point or another, I've had the Reaper plugins load and work just fine in Waveform as they've got solid programmers there.
Oh, right yes! -I am aware you can get the REAPER plugins in 64 vst and load them up in any DAW -i was referring to some of the older VST 32 bit stuff (cool reverbs and stuff they didn't make in 64)... And some of the JS "Tukan" Stuff... I'm not sure there is a way to get either of those things working in Waveform...

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Not under the current t version. Again, for 32-bit, you'll need a bridge. No idea how you'd get Javascript to work.
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Watchful wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:32 am Not under the current t version. Again, for 32-bit, you'll need a bridge. No idea how you'd get Javascript to work.
Great. Okay, swell...

Thanks, again.

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