Mooger Foogers in plugin format

[skwrl]

Software is more polite sounding than the hardware.
I like it more than the rough boxes.

That is something I am rather interested in, honestly. I found the hardware hard to work with in a recording session, though did manage to make some interesting (and dark) sounds with them! Notable roll-off of high frequencies in the MF-104. I am looking at the plugin version as a potential cure to that....

https://soundcloud.com/skwrl/pressure (Sub37, MF-104, MF-101, AIRA VT-3)

[Kozmyk]

With them all on one FX channel their CPU load went way High.
Didn't crash but I could only see them running om two cores of my i910900k.
Was higher on Studio One than on Bitwig.
I haven't looked to see if the load is spread when they're inserted on different tracks.
My next experiment.

Though high on CPU, they're not likely to be needed all together very often, if at all, so not really a deal breaker.

UPDATE
Used across multiple tracks, so kind of Parallel as opposed to Series, the CPU meter didn't go up as much.
Another thing I've yet to try is using different (larger) buffer sizes.
I usually default to a small buffer size for the lower latency but of course that's not usually needed so much at the Mixdown or Mastering stages.

[farfadetfarfelu]

I can't make the phaser self-oscillate. On my hardware one it will do so if I (a) crank the resonance up to 10 and (b) further drive the resonance with a DC voltage. Not something I did more than once or twice but Hainbach used it to good effect to make some drums.

Interesting, maybe reaching out to Moog they could up the resonance in a next update.

[Kozmyk]

In Bitwig at least the DAW Will allow Feedback Loops.
It gives you a warning that you're entering Dragon Territory but it doesn't stop you.

[_leras]

I'm really pretty surprised at the lack of attention these are getting. A great set of fx,even if sonically not as good as the actual originals.

People not interested? Or not liking them?

[plexuss]

I'm really pretty surprised at the lack of attention these are getting. A great set of fx,even if sonically not as good as the actual originals.

People not interested? Or not liking them?

First, I hate the name, I always have. Stupid. Second, big deal. There are a lot of similar effects out there. So, for $150US on sale, it's not a no-brainer by any stretch of the imagination. I'd need to see something pretty unique and substantial for $150US these days. Some filters and modulators, no matter how moogy they may be, are echoed many times in my current plugin collection. Just not interested at that price.... $50 and I am interested. Not going to happen. And then I'd have to deal with "mooger fooger" staring me in the face everytime I use them and questioning Robert Moog's sensibilities. Make no mistake, I've been a Moog user for decades and currently own a Moog Model D 1976 I bought in the 90s. I've owne a System 10, umoog, source, etc etc over the years. Mooger Fooger... no. how stupid.

Now I sound like BONES. lol

[sin night]

I bought them but the price is a bit high and they don’t sound like the originals (unfortunately).
I didn’t spend much time playing with them yet; I will use them, for some things they will do the job but I doubt they will ever be my go-to plugins…
Anyway, in my setup they will be useful as place holder for the actual hardware and/or to try things quickly (because activating a plugin takes way less than patching the hardware and routing the i/o)… but, I’m not fully satisfied with the sound (and I’m very sensitive/picky on this subject), they have less drive and they require to rise the input gain a lot to get some character (while the hardware led easily goes into yellow/red). And you need to drive the fx fir then to behave properly (like the envelope follower on the MF-101, which doesn’t do much while the input is green)…

[zvenx]

I have never owned or played with the hardware so I am not disappointed like some how it does't match up with the hardware..

But I love it for what it is.
rsp

[_leras]

I'm really pretty surprised at the lack of attention these are getting. A great set of fx,even if sonically not as good as the actual originals.

People not interested? Or not liking them?

First, I hate the name, I always have.

Now I sound like BONES. lol

Heh heh. But you missed the rant about losing low-end when you increase the resonance or something.

Name... Depends, moo like a cow, or mow like a lawn.

I guess I'll actually have to demo them. I have a feeling they won't be as good as the UAD Moog filters, which are really good and especially have great drive.

[Kaboom75]

Are they up to Softube or u-he emulation standards? On Gearspace they are saying the filter is not as good as Cytomic The Drop.

Then again if I'm using the Eventide bundle I dont care if they are modelling anything.

[theviirus]

Are they up to Softube or u-he emulation standards? Than again if I'm using the Eventide bundle I dont care if they are modelling anything.

I'd say so. I have the Softube Mutator. I struggle to dial it in just right, but the MF101 is super quick to dial in. I've heard maybe a dozen moog-style LP filters in my life and even had an MG1 but they still have a little growl...and I feel they captured it well. Trying out the "CV" features really sold these for me.

Seriously if you would have told me a ring mod plugin would excite me this year, I'd have laughed...hard...yet here I am and the ring mod sounds exceptional.

[_leras]

I'd say so. I have the Softube Mutator. I struggle to dial it in just right, but the MF101 is super quick to dial in.

The Mutator is a completely different type of filter though - stereo for a start. It was originally designed more for mix level filtering, with the additions of midi (along with the lfo) to allow filter control from a keyboard, and also cv in to allow like ducking etc. It's also fairly clean and precise in some ways.

Moog filters are a bit more squishy and juicy and have a wider sweet spot for an incoming signal.

[Kaboom75]

Thanks
Got them these things are really great for movie sound design, such a strange behaviour.

[zvenx]

Updated and a new one added. (I got an email notice).

https://moogconnect.net/m/mfs/mf-109s.html


rsp

[dionenoid]

Updated and a new one added. (I got an email notice).

How are you liking them ?

I'm still on the fence, liked 2 of them a lot, but others were dissappointing. My 7 days demo were over before i could test them deeper.