Does this matter? Zebra 2 will still be around and maintained for the foreseeable future, so you won't lose anything you already haveSonikHorizon wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:52 pm Any chance of the Zebra 2 presets being compatbile or convertable to 3 ?
Zebra 3 and Zebra Legacy
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- KVRist
- 141 posts since 6 Oct, 2018 from Alpen
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 17 Sep, 2020
No showstopper, just curiousgauderbock wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:20 pmDoes this matter? Zebra 2 will still be around and maintained for the foreseeable future, so you won't lose anything you already haveSonikHorizon wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:52 pm Any chance of the Zebra 2 presets being compatbile or convertable to 3 ?![]()
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- KVRist
- 255 posts since 15 Jul, 2022
Presets are sometimes very good starting point to tweak and maybe create some.
And it will certainly very desirable to use Zebra 3 exclusively, unless it is not as good as Zebra 2, which I doubt.
Having at least some sort of "bridge" to open - even unperfectly - Z2 presets in Z3 would really make sense imho.
And it will certainly very desirable to use Zebra 3 exclusively, unless it is not as good as Zebra 2, which I doubt.
Having at least some sort of "bridge" to open - even unperfectly - Z2 presets in Z3 would really make sense imho.
- KVRist
- 108 posts since 7 May, 2002 from France
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- KVRAF
- 3154 posts since 10 Jan, 2005
Would a Yamaha SY99 read patches of a SY 77?robisme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:52 pm Presets are sometimes very good starting point to tweak and maybe create some.
And it will certainly very desirable to use Zebra 3 exclusively, unless it is not as good as Zebra 2, which I doubt.
Having at least some sort of "bridge" to open - even unperfectly - Z2 presets in Z3 would really make sense imho.
For me Zebra3 will be a completely different beast, why should it emulate other gear?
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- addled muppet weed
- 111250 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
from what ive read, rather than being an updated version of zebra 2, it's more of a new synth, using some of the modular concept, but little of the core sound engine.robisme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:52 pm Presets are sometimes very good starting point to tweak and maybe create some.
And it will certainly very desirable to use Zebra 3 exclusively, unless it is not as good as Zebra 2, which I doubt.
Having at least some sort of "bridge" to open - even unperfectly - Z2 presets in Z3 would really make sense imho.
i could be wrong though?
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- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Not wrong at all.vurt wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:09 pmfrom what ive read, rather than being an updated version of zebra 2, it's more of a new synth, using some of the modular concept, but little of the core sound engine.robisme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:52 pm Presets are sometimes very good starting point to tweak and maybe create some.
And it will certainly very desirable to use Zebra 3 exclusively, unless it is not as good as Zebra 2, which I doubt.
Having at least some sort of "bridge" to open - even unperfectly - Z2 presets in Z3 would really make sense imho.
i could be wrong though?
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- KVRist
- 255 posts since 15 Jul, 2022
Well, Excel 2022 is able to open an old excel 97 xls file. Not perfectly, OK
But if Z3 could at least place its existing modules in a Z3 instance, opening a Z2 patch, it could help a lot.
It's like when Cubase or Reaper open a project in a computer where you don't have a given plugin : it makes an empty slot where it says "plugin missing", but at least, gives you the track's midi notes.
But if Z3 could at least place its existing modules in a Z3 instance, opening a Z2 patch, it could help a lot.
It's like when Cubase or Reaper open a project in a computer where you don't have a given plugin : it makes an empty slot where it says "plugin missing", but at least, gives you the track's midi notes.
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- KVRAF
- 3401 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
why? just learn the new synth and when you want a sound from Zebra 2 instantiate Zebra 2. if you know how to use Zebra2 chances are you'll get on well with Zebra3 and make new discoveries along the wayrobisme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:33 pm Well, Excel 2022 is able to open an old excel 97 xls file. Not perfectly, OK
But if Z3 could at least place its existing modules in a Z3 instance, opening a Z2 patch, it could help a lot.
It's like when Cubase or Reaper open a project in a computer where you don't have a given plugin : it makes an empty slot where it says "plugin missing", but at least, gives you the track's midi notes.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Some modules won't have exact equivalents. E.g. all filters will get audio rate modulation, so no need for dedicated XMF modules.
- addled muppet weed
- 111250 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
this would be more like opening a cubase project in reaper.robisme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:33 pm Well, Excel 2022 is able to open an old excel 97 xls file. Not perfectly, OK
But if Z3 could at least place its existing modules in a Z3 instance, opening a Z2 patch, it could help a lot.
It's like when Cubase or Reaper open a project in a computer where you don't have a given plugin : it makes an empty slot where it says "plugin missing", but at least, gives you the track's midi notes.
where only stock plug ins and presets were used and without saving the midi separate.
best example i can think of
- addled muppet weed
- 111250 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
and of course, zebra3 will come with its own awesome presets, many by the same folk as 2.
and im sure they will recreate some of their signature sounds with the new modules.
and im sure they will recreate some of their signature sounds with the new modules.
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- KVRist
- 213 posts since 28 Aug, 2021
Yeah it would be nice and I personally would love to load Z2 preset in Z3 but I think many people really have this thought because it's code-named "Zebra 3" from what I read so far, it's not really exactly a 100% successor of Zebra 2 but more of a new synth built around the concept of Zebra 2robisme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:33 pm Well, Excel 2022 is able to open an old excel 97 xls file. Not perfectly, OK
But if Z3 could at least place its existing modules in a Z3 instance, opening a Z2 patch, it could help a lot.
It's like when Cubase or Reaper open a project in a computer where you don't have a given plugin : it makes an empty slot where it says "plugin missing", but at least, gives you the track's midi notes.
I think it's not too late to switch the name to Okapi
- addled muppet weed
- 111250 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
wtf is an okapi? 
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- KVRAF
- 3154 posts since 10 Jan, 2005
Maybe we should stop calling it Zebra 3 to make it more obvious that it's a totally different product (not like Excel 97 vs Excel 2022 to be clear)?robisme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:33 pm Well, Excel 2022 is able to open an old excel 97 xls file. Not perfectly, OK
But if Z3 could at least place its existing modules in a Z3 instance, opening a Z2 patch, it could help a lot.
It's like when Cubase or Reaper open a project in a computer where you don't have a given plugin : it makes an empty slot where it says "plugin missing", but at least, gives you the track's midi notes.
Even Okapi would work well for that actually
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