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D.H. Miltz
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15567 posts since 21 Jun, 2008

Post Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:45 am

Temp lock (I think). I'll try to do some clean-up later and then unlock it.

D.H. Miltz
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15567 posts since 21 Jun, 2008

Post Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:03 pm

I think I got it all, but even if I missed something, everyone involved in that discussion/argument, please just let it go. Thank you.

Edit: If I did miss something and it needs attention, please either use the report button or PM me rather than posting in the thread.

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JonSolo
KVRAF
2832 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC

Post Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:52 pm

Man those look great. Share plz!!!!!!!

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Touch The Universe
KVRAF
4538 posts since 2 Oct, 2008

Post Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:12 pm

How long is the intro?
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aMUSEd
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34203 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:53 pm

chk071 wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:57 am
aMUSEd wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:44 am What is the appeal of this synth other than nostalgia? I seem to remember trying the original and not being particularly impressed but that was a long time ago
Seems to be one of those classic Trance machines, think Sylenth1, Spire and the likes. I never owned it, so, I can't tell how it sounds exactly, but, judging by the sound demos, I though I'd give it a pass, also considering that it seems to be pretty limited, and lacks a demo version.
I'd say it's the blend of nostalgia, simplicity, and its unique sound. At the time of its release, its trancegate was a somewhat unique feature that was very fitting at the time (I think it's still cool, but I'm a totally out-of-touch-with-modern-EDM dork, so whatever). It's not a synth that is going to contend with Omnisphere, or Zebra, or Falcon, etc., and it's not trying to replicate any vintage synths like every other synth these days, so you really have to love it for what it is and not for what it isn't. I guess as far as which niche it fills, maybe it's in a similar position as Tone2 Firebird and similar synths that are relatively simple by today's standard, but still sound good, are easy on the CPU, have a quick and easy workflow, and do some things very well.
Thanks - a trance gate wouldn’t have been something that appealed to me so that explains it. However I would like to try a demo but can’t seem to find one?

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Touch The Universe
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4538 posts since 2 Oct, 2008

Post Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:31 pm

I'd like to demo too. Might just pull the trigger.
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LFO8
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860 posts since 21 Jul, 2012

Post Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:31 am

aMUSEd wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:53 pmThanks - a trance gate wouldn’t have been something that appealed to me so that explains it. However I would like to try a demo but can’t seem to find one?
It’s only a ‘trance’ gate if you set the timing to 16th notes :lol:

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Synthman2000
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749 posts since 27 Apr, 2016

Post Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:38 am

Having used Vanguard 2 to complete a track now I cannot see it appearing in anything modern sounding that I make. I will use it for "period" tracks only.

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fisherKing
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3010 posts since 6 Aug, 2009

Post Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:05 am

Synthman2000 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:38 am Having used Vanguard 2 to complete a track now I cannot see it appearing in anything modern sounding that I make. I will use it for "period" tracks only.
i've already fit it into 2 modern tracks. any synth can fit anywhere, if one so chooses. and (outside of gliding supersaws and wobble basses), you can use whatever you want, anywhere.

a lot of presets represent their era, but a synth is a synth, and all of this is editable, malleable.

but wobble basses should be deleted on sight 😈

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aMUSEd
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34203 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:15 am

So is there a demo?

chk071
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33355 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:23 am

No. :?

PieBerger
KVRAF
1643 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London

Post Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:47 am

fisherKing wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:05 am but wobble basses should be deleted on sight 😈
https://youtu.be/IfeyUGZt8nk?t=70

Edit: damn doesn't load to 1:10 for maximum impact :lol:
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fisherKing
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3010 posts since 6 Aug, 2009

Post Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:55 am

PieBerger wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:47 am
fisherKing wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:05 am but wobble basses should be deleted on sight 😈
https://youtu.be/IfeyUGZt8nk?t=70

Edit: damn doesn't load to 1:10 for maximum impact :lol:
yikes, that was almost as headache-inducing as (wait for it).... a wobble bass... 😳

Prototech
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37 posts since 12 Feb, 2021

Post Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:00 am

Does it have improved filters and oscilators comparing to Version 1? When I tried to produce psytrance in 90s, 00s i liked this synth but quality of osc/filters was far from hardware synths like access virus for me especially with high pass filters and psytrance sounds
otherwise it was nice synth I remember

chk071
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33355 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:20 am

Prototech wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:00 am Does it have improved filters and oscilators comparing to Version 1?
As far as I understand it, it's the same synth, apart from 2 added filter types, and some new wavetables. Synth engine seems to be exactly the same.

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