Zebra 3 and Zebra Legacy

[Tuskerfort]

The big issue with Audioswift or the Nanopad is you don't have a reference. When you tap you will not land on the exact same spot the XY pad is.

Audioswift has four modes: Regular, Absolute, Relative A and Relative B

Relative A and Relative B are a bit esoteric to me.

Absolute works as you describe. It returns the absolute value of where your finger lands.

However Regular is quite useful. Regardless of where your finger lands, when you move your finger, it will increment or decrement from the previous values of the XY pad.

Hope this helps.

[gentleclockdivider]

Modulating osc freq from matrix has a higher range , or you can right click osc frequency and choose mmix module( which will appear at the right side ) , there you stack your ( same) sources * constant module

In Zebra the matrix seems to have exactly the same range as the slot in the module. You can of course stack both to get to a higher frequency although it would be nice to not have to do this hack.

You stack your sources in the mmix module , which also has a scalling and offset constant .
I don’t get what you mean by the filter freq not fully opening.
When you modulate filter freq by an env set to full sustain , it will reach the highest cut off point .
Just make sure that velocity is turned OFF for that envelope , otherwise full sustain will not be equal to 1

[pierb]

You stack your sources in the mmix module , which also has a scalling and offset constant .
I don’t get what you mean by the filter freq not fully opening.
When you modulate filter freq by an env set to full sustain , it will reach the highest cut off point .
Just make sure that velocity is turned OFF for that envelope , otherwise full sustain will not be equal to 1

I'm not referring to filter frequency but OSC frequency.

[Nigel Rios]

If the nanopad was available with just four touchpads it'd be ideal.

What OS are you on? If you are on a Mac, Audioswift gives you multiple XY pads on your trackpad. It's not as large as a tablet and it can take some practice to get trackpads three and four going. But there's nothing to connect. I'm a happy customer.

Thanks for supporting AudioSwift. Have you tried the current AudioSwift beta version 2.3.3? It now includes View 6 in XY Mode, which transforms the trackpad into four independent XY pads, great for Zebra or Hive. We can use them individually or all four at the same time and make complex modulation. In this video demo, I'm also sending Channel Pressure by pressing the trackpad:



This beta version includes other new features, like the option to keep using your DAW key shortcuts. It now doesn’t require to be the key app on screen; for Ableton Live, Cubase, Studio One, and Bitwig Studio users, it means that the floating window won’t hide anymore when AudioSwift is called.

For anybody on macOS looking for an XY pad solution for Zebra, let me give you some more details on AudioSwift.

AudioSwift transforms any Apple trackpad (Magic Trackpads or MacBooks) into MIDI tools like sliders, triggers, MPE, a mixer controller and of course, XY Pads.

The XY Mode has many views on how the trackpad will be divided. In the current Beta version 2.3.3 it can divide the trackpad into four XY pads, or you can use the whole surface and make complex modulation by controlling three XY pads with one, two or three finger touches configuration. Here is a video using all the surface with three fingers in Hive:



The mapping is pretty easy using the MIDI Learn feature in Zebra. You map each axis individually like any other MIDI knob and they will be ready when you open Zebra again. AudioSwift has the option to release the fingers and the controllers will return automatically to a default value you specify (which is shown in the video before and the one Tuskerfort shared).

It can also send Channel Pressure messages via the trackpad’s Force Touch feature or via any of the axes. Many Zebra patches already have aftertouch mapped to a parameter; if your MIDI keyboard can’t send Channel Pressure, you can do it from the trackpad. Or set the XY pads to Control A (CC2) and Control B (CC11).

Now about the different controller formats in AudioSwift. Each XY pad can send CC MIDI messages in four different ways; two for Absolute MIDI and two for Relative MIDI. Only the two Absolute types can be configured in the Zebra MIDI Table:

Regular - touch the surface and the controller will start from the last value that was previously sent from the trackpad. Set the controller in Zebra to Continuous7bit.

Absolute - touch the surface and the controller will jump to that value and continue from there. Set the controller in Zebra to Continuous7bit.

Relative A and Relative B - touch the surface and the controller will pick up from the parameter value on screen. This is how relative MIDI works with endless encoder knobs and they follow the Signed Bit and 2’s Complement MIDI formats respectively. For some reason, these two formats don’t work in u-He plugins. I thought they did, but I just tried them without success. They work fine using Ableton Live or Logic Pro mapping, or with other plugins.

For sound design, AudioSwift also gives you a grid-style MPE controller on the trackpad. Zebra is not MPE compatible yet, but it works with Hive or Diva.

If you have questions about using AudioSwift with u-He plugins, just let me know. Find more info: https://audioswiftapp.com

[jtsterays]

Hows Z3 coming along again Mr. Urs?

[Urs]

Hows Z3 coming along again Mr. Urs?

Still on hold... circumstances (Satin samplerate fix, Filterscape EQ updates, flus and other health issues... oh and this week also writing a text for CLAP's semi anniversary)

Hope to get back to it quickly next year, and hope to have a final version of the waveform/envelope editor for the trade shows.

(on a positive note, while working on Filterscape I wrote a killer analogue filter algorithm, which will also appear in Zebra3 then)

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

(on a positive note, while working on Filterscape I wrote a killer analogue filter algorithm, which will also appear in Zebra3 then)

There you go, that totally counts as Z3 development!

[petedako]

Thanks Urs!

Good health and happy holidays to you and all — this is very exciting news to me — after I just co-incidentally posted about our beloved Filterscape in the U-He users facebook group this morning.

This is way more exciting news than Z3 for me for now — the dark Z2 HZ has given me plenty to keep busy with and distract me from HIVE as it is — before jumping to Z3… so yes, please bring on the audio effects. + MFM2 (obvs) and the revisions on Uhbik continue to thrill.

Carrying on from your conversation starters in the Uhbik threads I can far more readily think of Filterscape using more modulation option updates in its popup modulations menu than U-Be Uhbik if anybody is asking — but forgive me if I re:Pete myself just bringing Filterscape up-to-date with default GUI/size and preset handling is going to be wicked - and naturally updates to the EQ & kawaii VA too are all very exciting news (!!!))

Hows Z3 coming along again Mr. Urs?

Still on hold... circumstances (Satin samplerate fix, Filterscape EQ updates, flus and other health issues... oh and this week also writing a text for CLAP's semi anniversary)

Hope to get back to it quickly next year, and hope to have a final version of the waveform/envelope editor for the trade shows.

(on a positive note, while working on Filterscape I wrote a killer analogue filter algorithm, which will also appear in Zebra3 then)

[Avorand]

Hello u-he team,
I have a question regarding re-selling Zebra 2.
I bought it (without Dark Zebra) before November 15th and upgraded it to Legacy for free. If I re-sell my Zebra Legacy taking the previous info into account, am I also automatically transferring the privilege for the cheap Zebra 3 Upgrade path to the new owner, or even the Legacy additions? Or will the new owner be able to download the Legacy version either way?

[FakeNatty]

Hello u-he team,
I have a question regarding re-selling Zebra 2.
I bought it (without Dark Zebra) before November 15th and upgraded it to Legacy for free. If I re-sell my Zebra Legacy taking the previous info into account, am I also automatically transferring the privilege for the cheap Zebra 3 Upgrade path to the new owner, or even the Legacy additions? Or will the new owner be able to download the Legacy version either way?

I'm the person who messaged you on VI-C about your price.

When you purchase Zebra 2 before Nov 15, you get the legacy bundle for free. On top of this, you get the €30 upgrade option to zebra 3.

If you purchase Zebra 2 + dark zebra before Nov 15, you get free Zebra 3 and legacy bundle.

If you purchase zebra legacy bundle on or after Nov 15, you get only zebra legacy bundle. You would need to purchase Zebra 3 as a new separate synth.

when you transfer, you transfer the same upgrade eligibility to the new user

[Avorand]

Hello u-he team,
I have a question regarding re-selling Zebra 2.
I bought it (without Dark Zebra) before November 15th and upgraded it to Legacy for free. If I re-sell my Zebra Legacy taking the previous info into account, am I also automatically transferring the privilege for the cheap Zebra 3 Upgrade path to the new owner, or even the Legacy additions? Or will the new owner be able to download the Legacy version either way?

I'm the person who messaged you on VI-C about your price.

When you purchase Zebra 2 before Nov 15, you get the legacy bundle for free. On top of this, you get the €30 upgrade option to zebra 3.

If you purchase Zebra 2 + dark zebra before Nov 15, you get free Zebra 3 and legacy bundle.

If you purchase zebra legacy bundle on or after Nov 15, you get only zebra legacy bundle. You would need to purchase Zebra 3 as a new separate synth.

when you transfer, you transfer the same upgrade eligibility to the new user

Ah, FakeNatty, yeah I know that I'm eligible for the 30€ upgrade path. I just want to make sure that the price I'm asking for is fair. But if it is true that the upgrade path also goes to the new owner, I should follow your advice and adjust the price. May I ask how you know? Have you asked u-he themselves?

[FakeNatty]

Yea, I've transferred a few times between zebra 2 and zebra 2 + dark zebra. I also wanted to purchase dark zebra before, so I directly asked them (Viktor) about it as well.

Plus, they mentioned it several times before.

[vurt]

yes, it was mentioned "some" pages back by urs

[Avorand]

Ha, ok. Sorry for being a bit skeptical. I just can't imagine how u-he is able to keep track of what serial is eligible for the upgrade path. Probably just by checking the original purchase date? Anyway, I really appreciate the heads-up!

[gentleclockdivider]

BTW Urs one feature I'd love to have in Zebra 3 is full range OSC pitch modulation. This is great for making kick drums!

Maybe I'm mistaken but I think even Bazille cannot do that?

You can of course modulate the frequency of a filter with self oscillation up to 20Khz but sometimes you want the envelope to more snappy and the resonance doesn't react quickly enough.

Modulating osc freq from matrix has a higher range , or you can right click osc frequency and choose mmix module( which will appear at the right side ) , there you stack your ( same) sources * constant module

THis what you originally wrote .
I explained that you can get a wider modulation range when using the mmix module like this