Old issue, Hive only loads presets correctly when GUI is openend in Renoise

[lilith93]

Hi,

this is an old issue which makes Hive unusable with Renoise on Ubuntu (20.04). I'm using the latest Renoise version 3.4.2 and Hive 12092. The presets only loads correctly when the GUI is opened. As far I tried it only seems to affect presets with wavetables. Here's an older video that demonstrates the problem:

https://vimeo.com/484895117?embedded=tr ... r=92059627

[tasmaniandevil]

Thanks for the video. We had never been able to reproduce this issue, thus there was no way to fix it. There have also been no other reports about this. We'll have to check this again.
Are you loading the presets just by loading them from Hive's preset browser, or are you using another method, like MIDI program changes?

[lilith93]

Thanks for the video. We had never been able to reproduce this issue, thus there was no way to fix it. There have also been no other reports about this. We'll have to check this again.
Are you loading the presets just by loading them from Hive's preset browser, or are you using another method, like MIDI program changes?

Thanks for checking. I tried on a live system (Ubuntustudio 22.04) as I would upgrade my Ubuntu installation if this is the reason, but I also ran into some issues there. The problem is, that it is not reproducible. On the live system I deactivated the FX section in Hive (VST3), saved the Renoise project, and after reopening it the FX section was activated again. With VST2 it was fine, but as I said it was also not reproducible with the VST3 version.

"Are you loading the presets just by loading them from Hive's preset browser, or are you using another method, like MIDI program changes?"

I do nothing. When I load the project I expect that Hive comes up with the latest preset.

Taktik could reproduce it once and wrote: "Ah, I was using older builds. I’ve updated to the latest version and can now replicate this. It seems that loading one instance of the Hive VST2 together with the VST3 version is causing this. I’ve absolutely no clue why this happens. But we could send this stripped down version of the song to U-He and ask them to debug this."

But it also happened to me when only VST2 or VST3 is loaded.

Back in November 2020 (were the video above is from) I also tested Hive 8676 and this version was working fine.

Another issue is the glitchy GUI of the VST3 plugins (as can be also seen in the video above).

I start a new track in Renoise and keep an eye on it. If I find out more I'll post it here. I hope taktik is doing some upgrades on Renoise, so hopefully this can be solved. The glitchy VST3 GUI problem also affects other people.

[lilith93]

checked again: no issue with Hive 8676 regarding the preset loading with wavetables.

[lilith93]

I made a complete new installation on a Lenovo T440P laptop running MX-21.2.1_x64 Wildflower.

Problem is still present with Hive 12092 and Renoise 3.4.2

Before I was using a different PC. So it's very unlike that it's a rare issue.

[tasmaniandevil]

Sorry, but you are still the only one who ever reported this, and we still cannot reproduce this.
It's hard to fix something that we cannot reproduce.

[lilith93]

I'm on a new machine now and running Ubuntu 24.04. Ran into this error again. Maybe someone observes the same. Seems to be Renoise related.

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Kernel: 6.12.5-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: GNOME v: 46.0 Distro: Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS (Noble Numbat)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B650M PG Lightning WiFi
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: 3.01
    date: 05/13/2024
CPU:
  Info: 8-core model: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache: L2: 8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3377 min/max: 600/5581 cores: 1: 5534 2: 5545 3: 5534
    4: 5545 5: 5529 6: 5549 7: 5540 8: 5540 9: 600 10: 600 11: 600 12: 600
    13: 600 14: 600 15: 600 16: 5530
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Display: wayland server: X.Org v: 23.2.6 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,radeonsi,swrast
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.0.9-0ubuntu0.3
    renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (radeonsi raphael_mendocino LLVM 17.0.6 DRM
    3.59 6.12.5-1-liquorix-amd64)
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Rembrandt Radeon High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-3: BEHRINGER GmbH UMC204HD 192k driver: snd-usb-audio type: USB
  Device-4: AKAI Professional M.I. MPK Mini Mk II
    driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid type: USB
  API: ALSA v: k6.12.5-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: MEDIATEK MT7922 802.11ax PCI Express Wireless Network Adapter
    driver: mt7921e
  IF: wlp4s0 state: down mac: 2c:98:11:a1:de:6b
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE driver: r8169
  IF: enp5s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 9c:6b:00:67:a1:af
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: MediaTek Wireless_Device driver: btusb type: USB
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: down
    bt-service: enabled,running rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes
    address: 2C:98:11:A1:DE:6C
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.82 TiB used: 404.68 GiB (21.7%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 990 PRO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 206.5 GiB used: 33.23 GiB (16.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 1.05 GiB used: 6.1 MiB (0.6%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
  ID-3: /home size: 707.73 GiB used: 124.99 GiB (17.7%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) file: /swap.img
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 64.2 C mobo: 36.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 41.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
  Memory: total: N/A available: 30.48 GiB used: 6.26 GiB (20.5%)
  Processes: 399 Uptime: 52m Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.34

Hive Version: 16520

[tasmaniandevil]

We have finally been able to reproduce this a couple of weeks ago. We'll look into it next year.

[lilith93]

We have finally been able to reproduce this a couple of weeks ago. We'll look into it next year.

Hey that's awesome! Thanks a lot!

[lilith93]

We have finally been able to reproduce this a couple of weeks ago. We'll look into it next year.

Just curious, but was this occurring only with Renoise?

[tasmaniandevil]

Just curious, but was this occurring only with Renoise?

Yes, only with Renoise, and only on Linux.

[tasmaniandevil]

Hi, please try this latest build for Linux. It should fix the wavetable loading issue in Renoise:

Hive 2.1.2 latest build 16525 Linux

[dvd98]

Hi, please try this latest build for Linux. It should fix the wavetable loading issue in Renoise:

Hive 2.1.2 latest build 16525 Linux

Seems to fix the issue for me. Thanks!

[lilith93]

This seems now fixed, however now I have a project in which Hive is only loading the preset correctly when I open the GUI and the strange thing is: The preset is a simple waveform (no wavetable). It' s the AZ subsonic preset. I can share a Renoise file if that helps. Built 16520.

I will check the latest built now. I thought I'm up to date.