I mean, the GUI presentation is simply superb. It looks very, very nice and practical/inspiring. The only problem is the GUI being too small. It would be great if it was possible to scale it between 150% and 200%.
I see some people here and there doing relatively recent reviews and howtos about Turnado. It still has a user base and for a good reason as it's unique in its creative possibilities. You can certainly attract new customers. Having a scalable GUI would make it much more a pleasure to work with.
Request for Turnado GUI scaling !
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- KVRAF
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
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- KVRian
- 1339 posts since 27 Apr, 2007
Hi mevla,
thanks for your feedback! Unfortunately, in contrast to our latest products, a zoom function did not make it in Turnado, but on Windows we at least implemented a hidden zoom possibility. It's not perfect, but it may improve your current situation regarding monitor size.
To decrease the plug-in just click an empty area in Turnado's User Interface to bring it in focus and hold the Shift key down while clicking the Page Down key on your keyboard. To enlarge it hold Shift + Page up.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Nadine
thanks for your feedback! Unfortunately, in contrast to our latest products, a zoom function did not make it in Turnado, but on Windows we at least implemented a hidden zoom possibility. It's not perfect, but it may improve your current situation regarding monitor size.
To decrease the plug-in just click an empty area in Turnado's User Interface to bring it in focus and hold the Shift key down while clicking the Page Down key on your keyboard. To enlarge it hold Shift + Page up.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Nadine
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
Hello Nadine,
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately this does not work in Bitwig 4.4.6 Linux running a recent yabridge/wine for Windows plugins. Windows plugin GUI resizing works well with other plugins when implemented as part of the plugin structure itself.
The same could be said, and perhaps even more, with Obscurium since it demands to spend more time exploring and understanding in order to be really creative with it when it comes to make it part of a creation : the size is so small that it makes it difficult to spend time on it.
On the other hand Thesys scales very well. If I'm not mistaken Thesys was also an earlier plugin, I mean earlier than when Sugar Bytes started to implement resizable GUIs as part of the product.
Cheers.
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately this does not work in Bitwig 4.4.6 Linux running a recent yabridge/wine for Windows plugins. Windows plugin GUI resizing works well with other plugins when implemented as part of the plugin structure itself.
The same could be said, and perhaps even more, with Obscurium since it demands to spend more time exploring and understanding in order to be really creative with it when it comes to make it part of a creation : the size is so small that it makes it difficult to spend time on it.
On the other hand Thesys scales very well. If I'm not mistaken Thesys was also an earlier plugin, I mean earlier than when Sugar Bytes started to implement resizable GUIs as part of the product.
Cheers.
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- KVRian
- 1339 posts since 27 Apr, 2007
Sorry to hear that! Maybe let me know, which screen resolution your Bitwig is working with and if the problem only occurs within Bitwig or also with the standalone version of Turnado. And are you using the native resolution or have you possibly increased/decreased the display scaling percentage in the display scaling options?
Anyway, in case you're familiar with the Windows registry, I think I have a workaround which could work. Please start the registry editor. Press the "Windows" and the "R" key at the same time and enter 'regedit'. Then press OK and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER / SOFTWARE/Sugar Bytes/Turnado
There you can see which resize factor is set:
You can open the entry with a double click, click on Decimal at Bae and and manually enter a higher value for resizefactor1 (and 2). Per default it's 100. Start with 150, if that is not enough try 200. This should force a higher zoom scale.
After adjusting the registry it's also essential to restart your computer to make the adjustment permanent.
This should hopefully fix it.
Best,
Nadine
Anyway, in case you're familiar with the Windows registry, I think I have a workaround which could work. Please start the registry editor. Press the "Windows" and the "R" key at the same time and enter 'regedit'. Then press OK and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER / SOFTWARE/Sugar Bytes/Turnado
There you can see which resize factor is set:
You can open the entry with a double click, click on Decimal at Bae and and manually enter a higher value for resizefactor1 (and 2). Per default it's 100. Start with 150, if that is not enough try 200. This should force a higher zoom scale.
After adjusting the registry it's also essential to restart your computer to make the adjustment permanent.
This should hopefully fix it.
Best,
Nadine
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- KVRAF
- 4805 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
Hi Nadine,
it's great to see you being active here and open for such topics. I just bought Turnado and figured out there is no scaling on macOS. Can you maybe stimate when it's coming or if it's planned?
Thanks and all the best!
Mark
it's great to see you being active here and open for such topics. I just bought Turnado and figured out there is no scaling on macOS. Can you maybe stimate when it's coming or if it's planned?
Thanks and all the best!
Mark
JamWide - a cross-platform Ninjam client for DAWs
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
Thanks for your reply.Sugar Bytes wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:20 am You can open the entry with a double click, click on Decimal at Bae and and manually enter a higher value for resizefactor1 (and 2). Per default it's 100. Start with 150, if that is not enough try 200. This should force a higher zoom scale. After adjusting the registry it's also essential to restart your computer to make the adjustment permanent.
This adjustment does not work on Linux using regedit. The modification is not saved. I know, Linux is not a supported platform. But I see here in the above reply that it does not seem to work on MacOS neither.
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- KVRAF
- 4805 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
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- KVRAF
- 4749 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K
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- KVRian
- 739 posts since 20 Jul, 2009
Indeed, using the registry trick makes the GUI bigger but it also makes it quite blurry.
Such a shame that this plugin with such a nice GUI can't be resized properly. -
- KVRAF
- 4805 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
no reply in 1 1/2 year..basically it's not coming anymore I think. Quite impressive they still charge 129 € for it, but otoh keeps the resale more or less intact.
JamWide - a cross-platform Ninjam client for DAWs
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 15 Dec, 2020
For me it works like a charm,
so happy with that solution.
Not been able to switch it back tho..
so happy with that solution.
Not been able to switch it back tho..
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- KVRian
- 1339 posts since 27 Apr, 2007
Hi MadMcMan,MadMcMan wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:23 am Shift + page up / down is not working on windows 11 and bitwig.
have you the latest version of Turnado installed?
And have you already tried the Page Down/Up key workaround in the Standalone version of Turnado instead of adjusting the size when using Turnado within Bitwig?
If it still does not work, is there a forceresize entry in your Turnado registry?
Maybe write a message directly to support[@]sugar-bytes.de and I'm sure we will find out why this
workaround does not work on your end.
Sorry for the trouble!
Best,
Nadine
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- KVRist
- 199 posts since 11 Jun, 2021
works in standalone and if you edit the registry....Sugar Bytes wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:29 amHi MadMcMan,MadMcMan wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:23 am Shift + page up / down is not working on windows 11 and bitwig.
have you the latest version of Turnado installed?
And have you already tried the Page Down/Up key workaround in the Standalone version of Turnado instead of adjusting the size when using Turnado within Bitwig?
If it still does not work, is there a forceresize entry in your Turnado registry?
Maybe write a message directly to support[@]sugar-bytes.de and I'm sure we will find out why this
workaround does not work on your end.
Sorry for the trouble!
Best,
Nadine
not something you should have to do for software you're charging 129 dollars for....
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- KVRian
- 1082 posts since 13 Oct, 2005 from UK
Hi Nadine. I love Sugar Bytes plugins. Have done for over a decade, and own most of them, but there are still some from your catalogue that really need the ability to be resized.Sugar Bytes wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:22 am
To decrease the plug-in just click an empty area in Turnado's User Interface to bring it in focus and hold the Shift key down while clicking the Page Down key on your keyboard. To enlarge it hold Shift + Page up.
Many electronic musicians started down this vst road a few decades ago, and eyesight is a concern we weren't thinking about then.
I tried the shift + pageup / down trick on Consequence, and it moves between onlt 2 states. One is too small, and the other goes beyond the boundaries of the screen, No increments between these two states.
We all have huge screens now, bit a lot of sugar bytes plugins are trailing behind other developers who have made resizing options a priority for optical health. Even those releasing free products can do this, so how long will it take for Sugar Bytes to properly address this ?