Alternatives to Sonnox Inflator?

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Everglide wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:24 am I have not. Emulating the Aroma flavours was simple but never exact. I paused work after requesting apShaper features on the apulSoft forum. As you know, the power of Aroma is to blend the four flavours to taste.
Would you be open to releasing them individually and then letting the end user blend them some other way? For example, Studio One allows users to create extended FX chains with splits, thus performing the exact function you requested from apulSoft. I believe Logic, Reason, and other DAW's have similar capabilities, plus DDMF, Blue Cat, and Nomad Factory have chainer plugins that do it.

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I saw a custom Inflator preset for FabFilters Saturn 2 spmewhere on Youtube but I dont fine it anymore, so if someone got it please post it here 🤗

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XL on the BX_limiters!

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Strange how no one has mentioned the fabulous function shaper by Robin schmidt
Just type in a function et voila
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For FL studio users, there’s also this clone in Patcher (not tested by me yet).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kg5q80pNjg4

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gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:09 pm Strange how no one has mentioned the fabulous function shaper by Robin schmidt
Just type in a function et voila
Unfortunately FuncShaper hard clips at +3.5 dB pre-waveshaper. I don't know why this would be. I reported it in 2019.

Because of this you lose the nice asymptotic saturation of something like Tanh(x).

+12 dB Drive -> Tanh(x)
vs
Tanh(4x)
(Should be the same)
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I'm also pretty sure it converts the curve you input into a lookup table instead of using it straight. This results in dirtier harmonics, quantization noise and more aliasing.

Here's FuncShaper vs. Tanh evaluated normally:
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MrBeagleton wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:55 am
gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:09 pm Strange how no one has mentioned the fabulous function shaper by Robin schmidt
Just type in a function et voila
Unfortunately FuncShaper hard clips at +3.5 dB pre-waveshaper. I don't know why this would be. I reported it in 2019.

Because of this you lose the nice asymptotic saturation of something like Tanh(x).

+12 dB Drive -> Tanh(x)
vs
Tanh(4x)
(Should be the same)
Image


I'm also pretty sure it converts the curve you input into a lookup table instead of using it straight. This results in dirtier harmonics, quantization noise and more aliasing.

Here's FuncShaper vs. Tanh evaluated normally:
Image
Can't you just use the variable 'a' like tanh(x*a) ?
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:48 am Can't you just use the variable 'a' like tanh(x*a) ?
Yes and no. You'd still wind up with the spectral nastiness in the second image which comes from using a lookup table. You'd also have to make sure your input is under 3.5 dB even after using the drive control. You can't overdrive FuncShaper beyond that without unexpected results.
MrBeagleton wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:55 am Unfortunately FuncShaper hard clips at +3.5 dB pre-waveshaper. I don't know why this would be.
A better way to put this is the waveshaper curve is only valid for the displayed range of -1.5...+1.5 (3.5 dB = 1.5 amplitude). Whatever the waveshaper value is at +-1.5, that's what extends beyond.

Like the red lines:

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My point is FuncShaper for me doesn't live up to its promise and these are the reasons I gave up on it.

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yep you're right , somehow the drive input value clips the signal before it enters the shaping function
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Curious if anybody here has used JS Inflator and can comment on how it compares?

https://github.com/Kiriki-liszt/JS_Inflator

Looking at the GitHub, I think it is the same algorithms as the Reaper JS RC Inflator, but I'm not really sure. I'm considering picking up Sonnox Inflator (I've tried Melda Waveshaper, and having to manually change presets for the curve is not very intuitive), but if this is as close to it as people say the Reaper version is, I might just stick with this. On the other hand, I can't find as much info online about it as I expected, and I'm wondering if there's a reason for that (i.e. because it doesn't match up too well).

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concealed identity wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:53 am Curious if anybody here has used JS Inflator and can comment on how it compares?

https://github.com/Kiriki-liszt/JS_Inflator

Looking at the GitHub, I think it is the same algorithms as the Reaper JS RC Inflator, but I'm not really sure. I'm considering picking up Sonnox Inflator (I've tried Melda Waveshaper, and having to manually change presets for the curve is not very intuitive), but if this is as close to it as people say the Reaper version is, I might just stick with this. On the other hand, I can't find as much info online about it as I expected, and I'm wondering if there's a reason for that (i.e. because it doesn't match up too well).
It is the same and nulls with Inflator. I use it more often than Inflator because it has oversampling

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iTzPrime wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:08 am
concealed identity wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:53 am Curious if anybody here has used JS Inflator and can comment on how it compares?

https://github.com/Kiriki-liszt/JS_Inflator

Looking at the GitHub, I think it is the same algorithms as the Reaper JS RC Inflator, but I'm not really sure. I'm considering picking up Sonnox Inflator (I've tried Melda Waveshaper, and having to manually change presets for the curve is not very intuitive), but if this is as close to it as people say the Reaper version is, I might just stick with this. On the other hand, I can't find as much info online about it as I expected, and I'm wondering if there's a reason for that (i.e. because it doesn't match up too well).
It is the same and nulls with Inflator. I use it more often than Inflator because it has oversampling
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iTzPrime wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:08 am
concealed identity wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:53 am Curious if anybody here has used JS Inflator and can comment on how it compares?

https://github.com/Kiriki-liszt/JS_Inflator

Looking at the GitHub, I think it is the same algorithms as the Reaper JS RC Inflator, but I'm not really sure. I'm considering picking up Sonnox Inflator (I've tried Melda Waveshaper, and having to manually change presets for the curve is not very intuitive), but if this is as close to it as people say the Reaper version is, I might just stick with this. On the other hand, I can't find as much info online about it as I expected, and I'm wondering if there's a reason for that (i.e. because it doesn't match up too well).
It is the same and nulls with Inflator. I use it more often than Inflator because it has oversampling
Gotta try this one...


THNAKs for the tip..

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I got the Github Inflator, it's wonderful.

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I like Puff Puff MixPass from Korneff Audio a lot lately. Though I have the Ox Inflator, also been using Kraftur from Soundtheory a lot. All of these are iLok of course, which is certainly, hated by many. :shrug:

*Oh wait sry, Korneff has a prop alternative to iLok in some of their plugins (currently),
Mixpass is one of them.

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